Comparing homosexuality to vegetarianism

[Skunkle]

I don't believe the God in which I have faith condemns homosexuality. And I don't give a flying crap who tries to convince me it's that way - the argument that "It just is" isn't convincing.

[Ghel]

So the guy in the original post doesn't agree with oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, toys, etc.? He must lead a really boring life.

[elsporko]

I don't see why people always feel the need to talk about homosexuality. Whatever fetish people have is there own business. Homos and antihomos need to keep the bedroom activities in the bedroom.

[Boozy]

I don't see why people always feel the need to talk about homosexuality. Whatever fetish people have is there own business.

Homosexuality is not a "fetish".

I'm assuming you are straight. Do you consider your preference for the opposite sex to be a "fetish"?

[elsporko]

Sex between a man and a woman is the default. Getting a hamburger is a default while a bacon cheeseburger is something special, which is why it has a special name.

If a straight man went to a brothel and said "I want sex" he wouldn't need to specify, but a gay man would need to add "with another man" just like somebody into bondage would need to specify "with a dominiatrix" or a person into over weight women would need to specify "with a fat chick"

[Boozy]

Sex between a man and a woman is the default.

Default for whom? You?

Homosexuality is the "default" for homosexuals.

Our society is just uptight about sex. In ancient Greece and Rome, nothing would have been assumed in a brothel. If a man walked in, he would have been presented a selection of male and female prostitutes to choose from, and no value judgement was assigned to his choice.

What is "default" is all relative to society's attitudes.

[elsporko]

Sex between man and a woman is default for our species because if the default was something else then we wouldn't have survived. If only 10% of our species was willing to breed we wouldn't have the numbers to continue.

[jackfaire]

Sex between a man and a woman is the default. Getting a hamburger is a default while a bacon cheeseburger is something special, which is why it has a special name.

Yeah but I can choose whether or not I want bacon but I can't choose who I am sexually attracted to.

[elsporko]

You can't choose whether or not you like bacon just like you can't choose who you are attracted to. You can choose to eat bacon and you can choose if liking bacon is going to be your defining characteristic, or if your going to have sex with bacon. Just don't make a big deal about having sex with bacon because I don't care. Its a personal matter what people's sexual choices are whether they like bacon, men, women, or whatever.

[Ghel]

People wouldn't feel such a great need to talk about homosexuality if homosexual individuals had the same rights as heterosexual individuals. Gay folks are the subject of discrimination, bigotry, and hatred, and so there's a lot to talk about.

In my view, there should be no reason to deny consenting adults from doing whatever they like in private. And even if sexual orientation was a choice, there would still be nothing wrong with being gay.

[elsporko]

The only reason they claim discrimination is because they define themselves by their fetish and not by who they actually are. Gays can't marry, but a man can't marry a sex doll, or a zoophile can't marry an animal. They are trying to make a huge thing over what they like to have sex with when that should only be part of their life.

[Ghel]

Would you deny two consenting adults the right to marry because they're into BDSM? Foot fetish? Water sports? Even if heterosexuality were a fetish (which it's not), a fetish is no reason to deny marriage.

And sexual orientation is only part of a person's life. If there wasn't this discrimination going on, then it would be a small portion of that person's life. It's those who are discriminating against them who are making such a big issue out of it.

[Boozy]

The only reason they claim discrimination is because they define themselves by their fetish and not by who they actually are. Gays can't marry, but a man can't marry a sex doll, or a zoophile can't marry an animal.

Are you comparing a committed and loving homosexual relationship to that of a man and his sex doll? That's absurd and insulting.

What you are asking homosexuals to do, by claiming that their orientation is a "fetish", is to stay closeted. I agree that sexual fetishes should be kept private. But a relationship with your life partner IS NOT a fetish, and has nothing to do with sex. Sex is probably a part of that relationship, but like all good relationships, it's likely not the cornerstone.

Homosexuals claim discrimination because it exists. I can bring my life partner with me to work events without fear of dismissal or reprisal; many gays cannot. I was able to marry by life partner; most gays cannot. I can adopt children with my life partner; many gays cannot. How is this not discrimination in your mind?

[elsporko]

Lets say I am not attracted to men. I am aroused by Asian women. However if I live with my best friend who is the same sex. We don't want to get married but why can't we adopt children or what not? What makes it wrong for us to have these benefits but okay for people who have gay sex? Now if you want to talk about reform in our society that gives privileges to married couples that's fine, but lets do it fair. Saying two males who have sex deserve X, Y and Z but heterosexuals who live together don't is wrong, just like it would be wrong to say to a married couple, "I'm sorry but you are into puppy play and only those who enjoy horse play are allowed to adopt"

[jackfaire]

The only reason they claim discrimination is because they define themselves by their fetish and not by who they actually are. Gays can't marry, but a man can't marry a sex doll, or a zoophile can't marry an animal. They are trying to make a huge thing over what they like to have sex with when that should only be part of their life.

Wow by that logic heterosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married you know cuz after all you can't marry if you have a fetish and apparently wanting to have sex is a fetish.