Comparing homosexuality to vegetarianism

[smileyeagle1021]

I don't see why people always feel the need to talk about homosexuality. Whatever fetish people have is there own business. Homos and antihomos need to keep the bedroom activities in the bedroom.

Homosexuality is not a "fetish".

I'm assuming you are straight. Do you consider your preference for the opposite sex to be a "fetish"?

Boozy and I agree on something... I do believe the world may be ending
(OK, so we agree more often than not... just not recently)

I have to ask, is holding my boyfriend's hand a fetish?
Is asking to be able to see him in the hospital (God willing it's never needed) a fetish?
How bout wanting the same federal benefits to be granted to my boyfriend and I as I could get if it were my girlfriend a fetish?
Is being in a committed relationship with my boyfriend a fetish?
Is not wanting to have to deny the existence of my boyfriend outside of the bedroom a fetish?

And finally, would you say it was a fetish if I were to replace the word boyfriend with girlfriend?

[elsporko]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/ma...pagewanted=all


Are you saying that we should allow that man to marry a pillow? Seems like he sure loves her alot. I've seen married couples without that much commitment.

[jackfaire]

Lets say I am not attracted to men. I am aroused by Asian women. However if I live with my best friend who is the same sex. We don't want to get married but why can't we adopt children or what not? What makes it wrong for us to have these benefits but okay for people who have gay sex?

Lets say I am not attracted women. However if I live with my best friend who is the opposite sex. We don't want to get married but why can't we adopt children or what not. What make it wrong for us to have these benefits but okay for people who have straight sex.


See how ridiculous the argument is? Your trying to make it about the kind of sex people have rather than the relationship.

Sex is a part of any relationship granted but it doesn't define the whole relationship. it is an important part. I don't know straight couples that are, "Oh well we don't want to have sex but we are going to get married anyway"

[the_std]

Are you saying that we should allow that man to marry a pillow? Seems like he sure loves her alot. I've seen married couples without that much commitment.

I don't see how comparing someone marrying an inanimate object is anything like comparing someone marrying a sentient, feeling, caring, logic-capable human freaking being. If you're saying that someone marrying a pillow is right up alongside gay marriage, that's pretty offensive. Gay people are not pillows.

[Nyoibo]

Gay people are not pillows.

Pillow biters maybe.

*runs for the hills*

[smileyeagle1021]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/ma...pagewanted=all


Are you saying that we should allow that man to marry a pillow? Seems like he sure loves her alot. I've seen married couples without that much commitment.

When the pillow is capable of signing their name to a marriage contract, I don't see why not... but as it is that a pillow will never be able to legally enter into a contract, your argument is non-sequiter at best.

And to add on to what Jackfaire said about relationships being about more than sex. A line that I have actually used on a friend's mother, "if your relationship with your husband is based on nothing but his penis and his ability and desire to put it in your vagina, then you have a very weak relationship indeed... because sister, eventually his penis will stop working like it used to and your vagina won't want it to anyway and then you'll, by that standard, have NOTHING."

[elsporko]

But a gay relationship is about sex. It would not exist if they did not want to have sex with each other, just like people with other fetishes have to agree on what kind of sex they want for it to work.

[jackfaire]

But a gay relationship is about sex. It would not exist if they did not want to have sex with each other, just like people with other fetishes have to agree on what kind of sex they want for it to work.

Again your by virtue of your argument saying that straight sex is a fetish and that straight relationships would not exist if they didn't want to have sex with each other.

If your relationships are like that I feel sorry for you.

[elsporko]

Straight sex is not a fetish because creatures, human or otherwise, have straight sex by default in order to make their species live on.

[IDrinkaRum]

I want to have sex with my husband. My husband wants to have sex with me. That is a fetish by your own examples, elsporko. Therefore, I have a fetish. My fetish is having sex with members of the opposite sex.

Therefore, if you're in a relationship that consists of sex (homo-, hetero-, whateversexual), you're participating in a fetish.

Therefore, all relationships with sex in them should not be legally allowed.

The only legal relationships are friendships.

Am I understanding this, or have gone off my rocker?

[elsporko]

I've clearly said that normal sex is not a fetish because it is the norm.

[jackfaire]

I've clearly said that normal sex is not a fetish because it is the norm.

Okay so you believe that relationships are based only on sex and anything else has nothing to do with the relationship?

[elsporko]

Theres plenty to do with relationships aside from sex. Me and my best friend have a great relationship but don't have sex at all. Neither of us has a fetish for men.

[jackfaire]

Theres plenty to do with relationships aside from sex. Me and my best friend have a great relationship but don't have sex at all. Neither of us has a fetish for men.

Would you marry a girl if there was never ever going to be sex of any kind involved?

[the_std]

I'm still not sure how classifying homosexuality as a fetish makes homosexual marriage any less legitimate. If it is a fetish, then said fetish is with a living, breathing, sentient and logic-capable person. You cannot legally deny a marriage between two heterosexual people who are involved with S&M, so how can you deny marriage based solely on a fetish?

Also, elsporko, I'd like to introduce you to a debating rule - just because you say it like it's fact, doesn't make it so.