They are just insecure

[elsporko]

I'm pretty sure I said the girl should have been punished so whats the prob?

[Boozy]

Everyone needs to take it down a notch, please. There's no need for this to get heated.

[Rageaholic]

Sounds like you should have gotten in trouble since you made a threat and are now telling us you would have acted on it. The teachers if they saw the action should have stepped in, but that doesn't change the fact that you were threatening violence. Just because a guy is bigger then a girl it doesn't mean a girl can't do damage especially with a weapon. You would have been better off going the legal rout, threatening to sue for sexual harassment or the school for creating a hostile environment.

Bull shit.

If someone is harassing you, you should be able to tell them off without getting in trouble. If they were harassing her and didn't get in trouble, then she shouldn't get in trouble for threatening them.

If they don't want you sticking up for yourself, than they should fix the problem themselves.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I'm pretty sure I said the girl should have been punished so whats the prob?

Firstly, you seem to be making the assumption that I was complaining about being punished, which isn't the case. I knew I'd get punished; I was fighting on school grounds which was against the rules. However, it takes two to fight so if I was going to be punished for fighting, the other girl should have gotten an equal punishment; especially since she'd started the fight. She got nothing, not even a telling off, cuz I'd happened to hit her harder. That in fact was entirely her own fault, as she and her gang had begun the bullying back when I was a skinny eleven year old of average height. A growth spurt and compulsive eating disorder had resulted in me being, in third year, a hell of a lot taller and heavier; in fact, taller and heavier than the skinny popular bitches by far. So she should have had the sense to leave me alone in the first place; after all, everyone has their breaking point.

Have you ever been in this situation? No-one has time to think out logically about the mores and manners, or to think on what the outcome might be if they snap and hit back at the bully who's been making their life a misery for years. It's not a logical decision; it's hearkening back to the basic primeval instinct of fight or flight. So I really don't see how reason applies.

[negruvoda]

To those defending the teachers

If you choose your profession, you choose the responsibility that comes with that profession. I'm an engineer and nobody would accept my explanation that a mistake in my design was due to the fact that I had too many things to deal with.
And to weigh in on the side of all Nerdy McNerd's out there, teachers don't do anything about bullies because it's inconvenient, just take the matter in hand and make sure you follow through. I was a victim of bullies before going to high school. All the teachers did was tell my parents that I had a tendency to talk back, when I said no to a bully, and there was nothing to be done. In grade 7 I asked my father what would be my punishment if I got suspended for fighting a bully. He said it depended on how much damage I did (he always taught me to fight fair). So the next time I got bullied I knocked the guy out, making sure that I only hit him while he was standing. I got suspended, and my dad was called in to talk to the teachers. They told him I attacked without provocation, and picked on the poor boy. Let me mention that I was a head shorter and 50lb lighter than this guy. My dad said, "the kid is a known bully, he has beaten my son several times, and you have done nothing, so shut up." I got to stay home for a week, and the only thing my dad did was to make sure I actually studied and did my homework as if I was still in school.
I think the only way to deal with bullies is to strike, hard, fast and as painfull as possible. You get in trouble, but they leave you alone after that. All the excuses are bs, those that excuse the bully and those that excuse the teachers. Do for yourself, and everybody will leave you alone.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I got to stay home for a week, and the only thing my dad did was to make sure I actually studied and did my homework as if I was still in school.

Same here; my parents backed me up all the way. I hadn't laid a finger on any of those girls before, and they'd been bullying me since first year. Like I said before, everyone has their breaking point and if a kid is teased, tormented and attacked til they snap, then it's hardly their fault if the bully ends up getting a kicking.

[elsporko]

Firstly, you seem to be making the assumption that I was complaining about being punished, which isn't the case. I knew I'd get punished; I was fighting on school grounds which was against the rules. However, it takes two to fight so if I was going to be punished for fighting, the other girl should have gotten an equal punishment; especially since she'd started the fight. She got nothing, not even a telling off, cuz I'd happened to hit her harder. That in fact was entirely her own fault, as she and her gang had begun the bullying back when I was a skinny eleven year old of average height. A growth spurt and compulsive eating disorder had resulted in me being, in third year, a hell of a lot taller and heavier; in fact, taller and heavier than the skinny popular bitches by far. So she should have had the sense to leave me alone in the first place; after all, everyone has their breaking point.

Have you ever been in this situation? No-one has time to think out logically about the mores and manners, or to think on what the outcome might be if they snap and hit back at the bully who's been making their life a misery for years. It's not a logical decision; it's hearkening back to the basic primeval instinct of fight or flight. So I really don't see how reason applies.

Well without knowing the full situation its hard to say what punishment she should have gotten. If you went nuts stomping on her while she was on the ground and broke her ribs or something then I would say that is a fair punishment for her.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Nope; nothing like that. No bones were broken, she just lost her dignity and got several bruises.

[elsporko]

Loss of dignity and bruises are still punishment. I wouldn't say she got off scotch free

[negruvoda]

Punishment is the responsibility of those in authority. Loss of dignity and bruises due to a fight is one thing. The fact that the teachers did not investigate and punish the bully acutally gives the impression of condoning the bullying. "Look I can bully, and as long as I loose the fight in front of the teachers, my victims will look like the bad guy". Is this something you want to teach children, or teens, or anybody?
So no, she did get away scott free.

[Lace Neil Singer]

She wasn't suspended. You think I was unscafed? Her claws tore my cheek; I was scarred for weeks afterwards and it was lucky they weren't permanent. Why should she be let off punishment, while I get suspended?

[elsporko]

If your injuries were that bad and you hurt her worse then she must have really been torn up.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I really don't understand what you're saying here. Can you explain it better? I explained what happened in my post.

[Vagabond]

Here's a rather poor way I dealt with a bully in High School.
I left a skinned varmint on their porch for them to find in the morning on their way to school.
Then made poor-taste varmint jokes in their direction for a couple of days.

Wasn't the best way, but it was effective. No school or parent involvement.

[the_std]

Animal cruelty - the solution to all of life's problems.