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    Firstly, I don't want this to be viewed as another "I hate my Dad" threads. I mean absolutely no disrespect to those who no longer have their fathers. My Dad is getting up there in years, somewhat, and that's what makes his behavior all the more hurtful to everyone.

    He has always been conservative, but lately he's become pretty much an over-conservative, fundie nightmare. My parents have custody of their oldest grandson and have for ten years. My nephew will be 18 in May. For the past couple of years, Dad has been really hard on him in every way possible. Dad is a truck driver and only home every few weeks. But when he does come home, pretty much all he does is make comments about how we don't get up early enough, how we stay up too late, how whatever we might be reading or watching at the moment is an abomination and corrupting our minds. Saturday he was home, and the temp barely hit 45F. He wanted nephew to go outside and spray primer on some parts of nephew's care that they are restoring. When 15 minutes had gone by and nephew hadn't yet gone out, he demanded that he come out of his room, looked him in the eye and yelled "C, I asked you to do that, WHY haven't you done it? The sun is still SHINING OUT THERE!" We learned from a phone convo with my sister that Dad called her later this week and informed her proudly that he ordered nephew to shave off the goatee he's been growing. ORDERED. Sure, it's dumb looking, but all teenaged boys go through that. He's also constantly yelling at him to go out and put in job applications and can't figure out why no one has hired him yet. Um, hello? He's not 18 yet, doesn't have the best grades, and we're in a damn recession. No one is hiring. Those of us with degrees and certifications are having trouble getting a job, and he's wondering why a below average minor can't get hired in a snap! He also bought him a book about the book of Proverbs and calls him twice a week to see if he's read and/or memorized it yet, and then puts him down for not having done it. This kid will be 18 soon, and I'm afraid that when he is, he's going to be quite gone. He's not exactly had the greatest life, and treating him like this at such a crucial time in his life is so not what he needs.

    Other times, we'll be trying to have a meal and Dad will ask Mom and me quite pointedly if we've even read the serving sizes on whatever we're eating. He'll then make a big deal about only taking bird size portions and then loudly declaring how full he is. It would really hurt a lot less if he just came out and said we were fat. He calls five or more times a day asking "What's on our agenda" and then calling back over and over with suggestions for pointless little busy jobs he's thought up for us to do. When he's home, he's up at the buttcrack of dawn and wanting us all to go outside and do whatever insane manual labor he's thought of, because "It needs to be done." When I try to reason that the world won't come crashing down if he doesn't trim trees or weedwhack around the house, he'll insist that it NEEDS done and acts as if it's a tragedy because we don't share his feelings. He calls several times a day to rant and rave about whatever government conspiracy he's heard about on the radio, or why Obama is a Nazi or some crazy nonsense like that. He'll pester my sister with the same sorts of rants as well. He also likes to present us and random other people with long, drawn out sermons. Literally, sermons.

    We've told him as kindly as possible over and over again how much these behaviors hurt us, but he continues to do them and then wonders why no one seems to answer his phone calls or want to be alone in a room with him.

    I just really don't know what to do.
    A.K.A. ShinyGreenApple

  • #2
    To put it blunty...your dad is an ass. Seriously, someone should tell him that the 1950s called, and they want their attitude back

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    • #3
      I'm kinda torn on this. Your dad has obviously got an "As long as you live in my house, you'll abide by my rules" attitude, which is understandable to a point, but yes, he's being an ass.

      My guess would be that he's believing everything that he hears or reads is wrong with our country and in some way, sees it at home.

      Everyone getting up and doing chores together? The family doesn't spend enough time together.

      Your nephew's goatee? He must be destined for drugs, unemployment, and/or welfare.

      Smaller portions? The obesity levels are at an all time high.

      I'd try talking with him. Don't argue and don't talk TO him. Try and talk WITH him. See if he can open up about what's bothering him. You might make progress on both sides.

      CH
      Some People Are Alive Only Because It's Illegal To Kill Them.

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      • #4
        He sounds out of touch but not bad at all. He wants the family to spend time together and be healthy. What is your lifestyle like? Are you and the rest of the family trying to avoid yard work with him and what not? Maybe that is part of the problem. I think the major issue is that he wants the best for the ones he loves and wants to be with them but he doesn't have the means to express this feeling directly so it comes out indirectly by calling alot, wanting to do work together, and trying to make correct what he perseveres as mistakes.

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        • #5
          Wait until your cousin turns 18 and then move out together?

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          • #6
            Wow, your father sounds like a control freak. Luckly, once your nephew turns the magic age of 18, he won't have to put up with his crap anymore. Just a few more months...

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            • #7
              And people like that will scratch their heads in confusion for hours and hours and wonder why in the world their kids took off to several states away and never attempts to call or catch up?

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              • #8
                I wouldn't put all the blame on the father. He's at least trying even if his methods are a bit brash. What is LadyBarbossa and nephew doing to get along with him?

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                • #9
                  Nephew and Mom and all really do our best to try and get along with him, but sitting down and having a civil conversation has become nearly impossible. None of us can say anything without him arguing that we're wrong, or not even believing something we told him, or finding some obscure thing about our statement to tie in with a morals lesson. Try to sit down and watch a movie/show together? He'll either ask in a whiny tone if anything else is on, change it to something he supposedly *has* to see and falls asleep after watching five minutes, or just falls asleep. Or our favorite thing, we actually do get into a nice conversation, and he suddenly remembers someone he hasn't talked to in forever and proceeds to have a loud phone convo for the next 90 minutes.

                  We'll often go outside and do whatever it is he wants to do, just to try and keep the peace, but he tends to become a micromanager, picking over everything we're doing and yelling that we're doing it wrong, or ask "This is ALL you got done in ALL this time?!" Playing with the horses used to be a favorite pasttime, but lately he won't listen to me anymore, has no idea how to read their body language, and he or the horse ends up getting hurt. Last time a 3 month old foal ended up rearing up and falling over backwards on top of him when he was trying to put a halter on it, and right after, it ran away, got caught up in the mare's lead rope (that I told him had way too much slack), and almost broke a leg. Nephew has a paint stallion that's not been the easiest thing to train, and Dad mentions often how much he thinks we should shoot it because it's useless.

                  We really do try to get along, and it's not horrible 100% of the time, but it is getting worse. And while, yes, nephew will be 18 in May and he is free to leave, that's really not what we want for him. We'd rather he stay here and live with us until he's got a decent amount of money and can have a secure place for himself, rather than moving out with a friend on no money and end up with who knows what or who.
                  A.K.A. ShinyGreenApple

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                  • #10
                    If its only a recent development then maybe its health related. Personality changes are common if something has happened to the brain.

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                    • #11
                      I have one phrase that fits him...

                      obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
                      https://www.youtube.com/user/HedgeTV
                      Great YouTube channel check it out!

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