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  • #16
    If you don't think you would actually fire the gun if the need arose, or wouldn't want to, then the *responsible* (since he likes that word so much) thing to do is not to have it in the first place. The Second Amendment means you can have one if you want, not that you must have one. I know there are plenty of mountains in Utah, so your friend can very easily take a flying leap.
    "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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    • #17
      People not taking no for an answer is my number one annoyance. For me, it's usually insignificant things like if I want to try something or watch a movie. Those little decisions they are arguing over affect me and only me, so why should they feel so inclined to change my mind?

      Lately, I've just ignored them after they keep asking. I already answered them and my answer is final, so bugger off.

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      • #18
        People can ignore pepper spray, either through training or being whacked out on drugs, nobody can ignore a tazer, also, you shoot and kill someone with a gun shooting them again does nothing, but you can tazer someone until the cows come home... or the battery goes flat, whichever.
        I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
        Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nyoibo View Post
          People can ignore pepper spray, either through training or being whacked out on drugs, nobody can ignore a tazer, also, you shoot and kill someone with a gun shooting them again does nothing, but you can tazer someone until the cows come home... or the battery goes flat, whichever.
          Actually, there have been cases of people on drugs not responding to tasers as well. A gun makes sure they're stopped. Just make sure to use hollow-points instead of a full-metal jacket.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Hobbs View Post
            A gun makes sure they're stopped. Just make sure to use hollow-points instead of a full-metal jacket.
            None of that changes the fact that many people don't want to need a deadly weapon for protection. Smiley has said that he doesn't want to carry a gun and has taken steps for self protection, so why should he get a gun?

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            • #21
              I've never heard of someone ignoring a tazer, got a link? I'm curious given that it causes neuromuscular incapacitation how they could keep going.
              I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
              Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

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              • #22
                I saw it on one of those Sheriff John Bunnell shows...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
                  None of that changes the fact that many people don't want to need a deadly weapon for protection. Smiley has said that he doesn't want to carry a gun and has taken steps for self protection, so why should he get a gun?
                  If you hadn't snipped my comment, you'd have my reason for why lethal force is sometimes needed.

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                  • #24
                    There are some people (mostly men) who are hard for the police to taze because they are either extremely large or bodybuilders or really athletic.

                    My bf has been tazed before. The first shots of them barely phase him. They slow him down, but won't get him down. The police had to do it multiple times. But of course, after so many times, he did piss his pants.

                    I'd rather have a tazer where you use direct contact versus shooting it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by blas87 View Post
                      My bf has been tazed before. The first shots of them barely phase him. They slow him down, but won't get him down. The police had to do it multiple times. But of course, after so many times, he did piss his pants.
                      I know I'm a terrible human being for saying this... but I would have loved to have seen that
                      "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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                      • #26
                        I was tazed before. I ignored it. They had to taze me again and tackle. Those pins were painful to get removed.
                        Toilet Paper has been "bath tissue" for the longest time, and it really chaps my ass - Blas
                        I AM THE MAN of the house! I wear the pants!!! But uh...my wife buys the pants so....yeah.

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