Written up!

[DrFaroohk]

This is where I get confused. How is it that they have no obligation to do what is clearly written in the rules, yet I do?

[Plaidman]

Well, as you have put it many times, your smart. You were smart enough to read the book which likely a good enough chunk of people there never have. Maybe they belive your smart enough to understand the rules. You still had unexcuse absences. Doesn't matter if it was short notice on the work day one, which yes, was greatly unfair to you and your family. But its not their job to care for that. Their job, is to get fish gutted/shipped etc etc. Which means calling in the drones. (IE you, not really a drone but you get my drift?).

Is it unfair that your being written up? Yeah. But that's unfortunally what you get when you don't check into things. It takes all of five minutes to talk "Hey, that day you sent me home because I was sick, that was an exucse absence right?"

If they stated yes, you could ask for proof. Then bring it up in this case.

You can't get a baby sitter on time? Did you at least call before stating "Hey, I will be late. I can't get a babysitter"

Or did you shrug and go oh well, and went back to playing video games.

[DrFaroohk]

I still just honestly don't see it that way. I wish I did because my life would probably be a lot easier. I still see it that they fucked up. For the short notice day, for example, it's their job to run an organized business where this sort of thing doesn't happen. I know this because I've been in management and that's always how it was with me. So what if I didn't know that Sherry was shooting up at work? It's my JOB to know that. So what if they didn't know we're getting an extra truck on Friday - it's their job to know. And to schedule a proper work week. They get to make all the excuses - too busy, too confusing, too hectic, we have so much to do! Well so do I.

And yeah, it's not fair. And as a life rule I refuse to accept shit like that. "Life isn't fair?" Bullshit. That's a bullshit, pathetic excuse for people who like to fuck you over. It's a reason to not ever have to take responsibility for your actions. It's funny that I never get to use that excuse. How about it's not fair that my kids have to grow up with a father who's not all that into them? Don't I get to say "Well life isn't fair derp derp derp!"

One more thing I gotta bring up: What's all this martyr business? Last time I checked, a martyr is someone who dies willingly for a cause, like Jesus or a suicide bomber. A martyr is not someone who bitches and complains a lot.

[Hobbs]

You're a bloody martyr (no pun intended) by all this "Woe is me! Look at them persecuting me, it's sooo unfair! Waaaa!" Do you complain this much at work? If so, maybe they're just using "official" reasons for reprimanding you cuz they wanna fire you.

[Plaidman]

And yeah, it's not fair. And as a life rule I refuse to accept shit like that. "Life isn't fair?" Bullshit. That's a bullshit, pathetic excuse for people who like to fuck you over. It's a reason to not ever have to take responsibility for your actions. It's funny that I never get to use that excuse. How about it's not fair that my kids have to grow up with a father who's not all that into them? Don't I get to say "Well life isn't fair derp derp derp!"

One more thing I gotta bring up: What's all this martyr business? Last time I checked, a martyr is someone who dies willingly for a cause, like Jesus or a suicide bomber. A martyr is not someone who bitches and complains a lot.

We all know what a martyr is. It being used in a sarcastic matter.

And you are using it as an excuse. The way you treat your kids. It isn't fair that your not into them. It's not fair the don't get to have the love they deserve. Your the one fucking them over on that. They unfortunally, don't get to decide who the main male model living in the same home as them.

Life isn't fair for all people period. There is no such thing as someone who takes it and says "Nope, I'm not doing that". Was it fair to the workload of people who had to work extra hard because you were gone? Hey, you couldn't get a babysitter.

Is it fair for people to not have just one wife, but a wife and exwife that has two kids that doesn't give two shits about them while others shruggle their whole lives to have a child, ether by natural or adoption cant? Nope.

You have it pretty fucking good compared to a shitload of people. If the worst in your life, is the fact your bitching over a write up at a job you hate, then wow. You are the greatest person in the world man.

[blas87]

I was on your side until you started the martyr routine and started playing rule police.

I am all for people standing up for their rights and shady companies and especially the higher ups of those companies sinking faster than the Titanic, but it's a whole other ballpark when someone doesn't CYA. CYA, by the way, is a nice little way to remember to COVER YOUR ASS.

It is imparative in life to cover your own ass. It may suck, but guess what? If you don't, who will? Exactly.

Life isn't fair is NOT an excuse for people to fuck others over or to not take responsibility. To some, sure it is. I have no doubt that a lot of people use it as a crutch to purposely be an ass or screw others over. But in general, life isn't fair because IT ISN'T.

[protege]

Life isn't fair for all people period. There is no such thing as someone who takes it and says "Nope, I'm not doing that". Was it fair to the workload of people who had to work extra hard because you were gone? Hey, you couldn't get a babysitter.

That's why Kelly got a stern "talking to" about all the days she was taking off. The rest of us simply got tired of having to cover for her all the time. Granted, the job she was doing was pretty minimal, but still. We have *enough* crap to do during the day, and didn't appreciate having to do not only our jobs, but her crap as well.

But, before she got her little talking to, I actually heard her on the phone ranting away about how "unfair" we were being, and "how the man was keeping her down." Um, are you fucking kidding me? We're "keeping you down" and being "unfair," because we're holding you to the provisions of the contract you signed when you were hired? Nobody forced her to take the job, but she did...and along with taking it, meant there are responsibilities. Such as, oh I don't know...coming in to work every day!

While we're at it, I'm sure everyone remembers Amy, and her DUI problem. For those who don't, she got busted about 1.5 years ago for her second DUI. Because it was her second, she lost her license for 2 years, got heavily fined (we're talking *thousands* of dollars here, folks ), house arrest for a year, and spent a night in jail. First day back at work, she started whining about how "unfair" it was that she got caught.

Needless to say, the rest of us soon pounced on her. Unfair? You want to talk about unfair? Was it really fair that she chose to risk the lives of other motorists because she was driving drunk? Would it have been fair if she would have killed or seriously injured someone else? In fact, she got off lucky--in my borough, she would have spent a *few* days in jail, plus getting her name in the paper.

[Nyoibo]

I've worked in a similar setting, I worked in an abattoir for about a year, you're lucky they don't have the abattoirs rules where you work, if you call out sick you are no allowed to return to work until you get a Dr's cert saying you were not only sick that day, but are healthy to return to work on whichever date, same thing on a NCNS, you get told to go home and get a Dr's cert.

[DrFaroohk]

Interesting epilogue to this little thread: I went to speak to the HR lady at work today regarding the writeup, and before I even got started on it she was like "hello drfaroohk, I've been needing to talk to you. Turns out we made a mistake with your writeup, and in fact only 4 of those days were unexcused, so you were only supposed to get a verbal warning."

lol.....

[Hobbs]

Interesting epilogue to this little thread: I went to speak to the HR lady at work today regarding the writeup, and before I even got started on it she was like "hello drfaroohk, I've been needing to talk to you. Turns out we made a mistake with your writeup, and in fact only 4 of those days were unexcused, so you were only supposed to get a verbal warning."

lol.....

See? And how hard was it to talk to HR? No, you were already prepared to go to the health dept. and take people down with you, weren't you?

[DrFaroohk]

Oh heavens no, I wasn't just going to go ahead and screw them like that. Only if they failed to see reason.

[Fryk]

Glad it worked out for you, Doc. I was all set to write that they messed up anyway, seeing as you showed up and were sent home, but your HR beat me to it.

[Food Lady]

Yay on it working out; I was going to post that I knew you were right, Dr. F. Posting the schedule and then changing it is not allowed in many companies. If you didn't come in because you needed to follow the laws that prohibit leaving your children alone, you were in the right. And being sent home is not the same as not coming in. Those are not unexcused absences. I don't condone revenge, for the record, whether they did or did not fail to see reason. And, finally, posting in here is not necessarily whining.