Bitter, angry women

[Ree]

I have an acquaintance who is in the midst of a divorce.
She's on my Facebook page, and for days now, all of her updates have been nothing but angry, bitter slams against men.

Some examples:

"I find it amazing that men stomp all over us, take us for granted, use and abuse us and then wonder why we become bitches, well hello figure it out...lol"

"Men always whine about women always suffocating them,Personally,I think if you can still hear them whining,you are not pressing down on the pillow hard enough"

" thinks a worthwhile guy is like the tooth fairy: when I see it I'll believe it."

"Some say men are only good for 1 thing, but even that can be replaced by 6" of plastic & a couple of batteries ;0>"

"The one thing men are consistently good at, is letting us women down... at least they are good at something!"

I am sorry that she's going through a rough time, but seriously, this woman has 2 sons.
Does she not realize what message she is sending to them when she posts that stuff?

My own sister has decided to divorce. Her husband has made her life hell for many years now.
If anyone has a reason to be bitter, she does.
She actually commented to me about all the nasty stuff this other woman has been posting, and she was bothered by it.

As horrible as things have been, they have 2 sons together, and she wants to keep things as civil as possible.

She really hates when she sees those kinds of comments about all men.
Like me, there are a lot of men in her life who have been wonderful.

Why is it OK for women to bash men and lump them all together as assholes, but if a man started posting things like that about women, you can be sure that fur would fly, and somebody would end up reporting them for promoting hate against women.

Why such a double standard?

She may get mad at me, but I posted this on my Facebook a little while ago:

I have many men in my life whom I love dearly, and for whom I am very grateful. They have been there for me through good times and bad.
I have also been hurt by men. The men that hurt me are not the same men who have stood by me, so it is very unfair to put the blame on them.
When I see all men being put down because of a few, I have to ask, Ladies, don't you realize, your sons are men as well, or will be someday?

[Hobbs]

"Why?" indeed. *Spock-like brow rise* I've never understood it either, and my bio-donor is a complete douche. My mom does it sometimes when my dad pisses her off, and I think, "Um, I'm a guy..and I'm standing right here."

I usually counter with an equally base attitude of women, one which is completely alien to my true beliefs.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

Double standards always have their root in one thing: the concept of a greater/lesser relationship. In some the greater is allowed to be assholes because they deserve to as the greater and in others the lesser is because poor little lesser got it's feelings hurt.

In both instances an unfair assumption is made about arbitrarily formed groups and in both that distinction and the inherent inequality is mongers is reinforced, but people's knee-jerk reaction the first is the second because they think that it 'makes up' for the past existence or that the greater really is greater and thus shouldn't care about any negative effects thus inflicted.

[crashhelmet]

That's usually where I reply back with how all women are gold diggers and cheaters. It usually puts a stop to comments like those. Some "debate" may ensue, but they rarely last long.

CH

[jackfaire]

That's usually where I reply back with how all women are gold diggers and cheaters. It usually puts a stop to comments like those. Some "debate" may ensue, but they rarely last long.

CH

When I do this I then wait for them to rant about how generalizations are wrong and hurtful and just stand there smiling when they hit the "Oh" moment.

[Boozy]

If someone had said any of those things about women, they'd be roasted alive on a spit; and rightfully so. Misandry should be treated with as much disdain as misogyny.

To be honest, I think both attitudes reflect a great deal of immaturity. With extraordinarily few exceptions (such as serious abuse), divorces are the fault of both partners. Whenever I hear someone blaming ALL women or ALL men for their previous relationship disasters, my first thought is "This person is too emotionally immature to recognize their own part in the problem".

If someone hates every man out there because their relationships with men have turned out poorly, there's only one common factor. They're either picking the wrong men, misinterpreting who is at "fault", or driving otherwise kind and reasonable men crazy.

[jackfaire]

I just keep in mind one person's junk is another one's treasure. The bad jokes I hated my ex making might be the thing that attracts the next person.

[guywithashovel]

Sadly, a typical feminist.

Their crap used to bother me in the fairly recent past, but anymore now, I usually just brush it off. After all, hate groups usually aren't that much trouble as long as they don't get too large. For example, consider the KKK. Back when they were large, they were a threat, but now that they've been reduced to a bunch of washed up rednecks paranoid about blacks, Mexicans, gays, and atheists allegedly taking over the country, they really aren't much to worry about. In fact, if you can employ a dark sense of humor, it's actually kind of funny.

The same is true with these feminazis. For the most part, they are a disenfranchised group of angry women who incesantly shout things like "Men are scum!" "All men should be castrated!" "Men cause all of the problems on the Earth!" Once again, as long as you don't take thing too pesonally, it can actually be kind of funny. Besides, I've noticed that most women usually just roll their eyes as these types of women.

[Hobbs]

Sadly, a typical feminist.

Their crap used to bother me in the fairly recent past, but anymore now, I usually just brush it off. After all, hate groups usually aren't that much trouble as long as they don't get too large. For example, consider the KKK. Back when they were large, they were a threat, but now that they've been reduced to a bunch of washed up rednecks paranoid about blacks, Mexicans, gays, and atheists allegedly taking over the country, they really aren't much to worry about. In fact, if you can employ a dark sense of humor, it's actually kind of funny.

The same is true with these feminazis. For the most part, they are a disenfranchised group of angry women who incesantly shout things like "Men are scum!" "All men should be castrated!" "Men cause all of the problems on the Earth!" Once again, as long as you don't take thing too pesonally, it can actually be kind of funny. Besides, I've noticed that most women usually just roll their eyes as these types of women.

I would argue that the KKK and the related Aryan nations and neo-Nazi's are the largest domestic-terror threat in the US.

[Amanita]

I consider myself a feminist, and I don't hate on all men.

I remember going into a store and seeing merchandise with slogans like "Boys are dumb. Throw rocks at them", "Boys stink", and so on. I said to the male clerk "Can you imagine the outrage if these things said "Girls are dumb, throw rocks at them?"

I think he sorta agreed with me.

Fuck the double standard. If it's not cool to rip down women, it's also not cool to rip down men.

[Rebel]

Sadly, a typical feminist.

Not really. Just a bitter, angry woman who has a bad experience with a man, and so wants to blame the whole gender as a result. Like Boozy said, they're just immature little people who feel they have been wronged and so are finding every one else to blame but themselves.

Men do the same thing, but it's through calling the woman (and any woman like them) a whore/slut/gold-digger. It's just a sign that they feel hurt and are lashing out at everyone they can, in just the way a child would.

Both sexes are guilty of this. And it just pisses me off when they say crap like this in front of their children, or in front of people of the opposite sex that have never done anything to wrong them at all.

Hell, I've been called a slut by guys before because I turned them down when they asked me out. Yep, wasn't even involved with them before they made this accusation. I bet everyone here has experienced something similar in their lives.

[crashhelmet]

I'm one of the "Good Guys" and that is my curse. I'm the gentleman. The one that treats women right. But yet I constantly have to hear from women about how much ALL men are assholes. While there are many assholes out there, they are the ones that continually get with them.

So, I flip it on them and bring up the fact that just about every girl I've ever dated has either cheated on me, milked me for what she could, or a combination of the two. Some of them, like my son's mother, are even bat-shit crazy.

But oh no. I'm not allowed to make comments like that because it's sexist, chauvinistic, and piggish.

Like Jackfaire said, you turn it on them and watch how quickly they realize just what it is they're saying.

CH

[blas87]

Here here. I've been called a snob, a slut, a fake bitch by guys simply because I turned them down. Gee, sensitive ego you have there.

Sure, I have done my fair share of man-bashing, but I learned from my mistakes and now it really sucks being judged like that back at me. Right now, I am being punished for my bf's ex gf's mistakes. He will not have anything to do with living with me until we've been together for 5 years.....I can see where moving in too soon is dumb, but we've been together a year and a half, it may be too soon now, but to tell me "NO way in HELL!" until it's been like 5 years.....really? It's my fault that that crazy bitch temporarily ruined your life?

[jedimaster91]

A good friend of mine once said all men should be castrated at birth and have to earn it back. I can half agree to a point. I went through a rough time in my life when I was hurting and vulnerable and guys took advantage of it. I allowed some things I shouldn't have because I didn't want whichever guy I was with to leave. Right before I started dating Mr Jedi, I had decided I didn't want a boyfriend anymore because I'd end up hurt again.

Although I always exempted my younger brother from my man-bashing. He's a good, sweet kid and with two older sisters working on him, he's turned out mostly civilized.

[Red Panda]

As a woman I say if you're having trouble with your man then you are to blame. You picked him. If you're letting him walk all over you then grow a spine.