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  • "The nerve of them" and more....

    Some rants all rolled into one, sorry about the length....

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    "The nerve of them" - a statement uttered by people when you explain why you have a preference or express disappointment. Two cases in point:

    1. Car choices:

    Co-worker asked if I won 60 grand to spend on a car, what would it be. I told him I would wait until Dodge releases the 2011 Challenger SRT, as they're putting in a new engine that has more power and better mileage (6.4L HEMI). Plus I'll have money left over for modifications.

    Said CW goes, "Why not a BMW 5 series? With the Challenger, the interior looks like shit, it handles like shit and the dealer network is crap."

    Now don't get my wrong - BMWs are good cars. But for the same price as a loaded V8 challenger, I would only be able to get a 6-cylinder 5 series (Yeah I know I can get a base model 550i but stripped!). Not only that, I would hate to be included in a group of people that has the "I drive a BMW so I'm better than you!" mentality (I know some don't, but most do). After all, us domestic car guys respect other people's rides.

    Said CW told me, "Yep they're assholes for wanting a car that's well made, handles well and has a great dealer network. The nerve of them!"

    2. As a Jewish man....

    One of the things I'm always being told is, "Why don't you find a nice jewish girl?"

    Okay, I would love a nice jewish girl. I really would. Jewish girls are usually very attractive and have goals about themselves.

    Sadly - and this was told to me more than once - that by the 3rd date many jewish girls ask to see your paycheck and if you can't produce it or you don't make enough for them, they're out of there.

    I was in an auto repair shop once and a jewish woman was there with her kids, and this subject came up. She said it best: "It's because their mothers tell them to go for the gold, pretty much."

    This can be evidenced by visiting a jewish dating site like Jdate. Like other sites Jdate has a section where you can list things you want in a mate. Many of those girls - who are not even in school or barely in school themselves - list that they want a man with a bachelor's or even a doctorate. If that doesn't shout out "I just want money," I don't know what does.

    I told this to someone who snapped, "You self-hater! Man, they're such gold-diggers for wanting a man who has goals and is able to be financial stable. The nerve of them!"

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    "They can feel what you're thinking" - don't know how, but anyway....

    I'll use the "sex by eyeball" thing from a previous thread of mine. For a refresher, it's when you look at a girl and envision kissing her, undressing her and having sex with her. Some call it "undressing with the eyes." To me it's a pretty natural human thought process and pretty much all straight men do it. Whether it's the hot morning traffic reporter on the news, or the attractive woman in the office, if a man is attracted to her, he'll have this thought about them.

    A member here said "a woman can feel a man undressing her with his eyes." Excuse me, but how? If it's a thought process, then how can anyone - male or female - feel it? To me, unless you're the cop from Heroes, you can't. It's a thought process! And before any of you call me sexist, women do the "sex by eyeball" thing too. But you don't hear us guys complaining.

    I'll repeat something I said in the NOW thread, with a bit more of it that I forgot. The morning show hosts on a popular radio station was talking about sex by eyeball and a woman called in and said she can't go anywhere in a tank/halter top without men doing sex by eyeball on her, and in her words "it's gross." The first DJ said "either go to a gay bar or cover up because any straight man will have this thought." The second DJ said, "If it's a thought process than how do you know they're doing it?" The woman said, "You're not a woman. When a guy looks at you, you can so tell they want to grab hold of your straps and pull your top and pants down. Ewww." The DJ then goes, "First saying ewww is not very mature, secondly you're not a mind reader so how do you know they want to pull your top down? Even if they are, how do you know?" The woman told them "you just don't get it." I guess we don't.

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    You pay money for an adult paysite? It's porn and you're a loser!

    I have mentioned a glamour subscription site called OnlyTease in the past. Yes, I subscribe to it. I feel it's no worse than a subscription to Playboy or Maxim. Except unlike playboy or Maxim, there's no articles. Yes, the models get topless/nude (OT is based in the UK and nudity is not a big deal over there), but one thing I like about it is that unlike many other "glamour" sites the models don't go from being clothed to naked in a matter of 5 pictures, they stay clothed for the majority of the set and "tease" their way out of their outfits (Hence the name onlytease). The other thing I like is that there's no "porn" of any kind on the site. Just topless pics and the occasional nude ones.

    Yet whenever I mention "paysite" people think "porn" and said, "You pay for it? Get it for free!" First, the free stuff gives you viruses and is just the same sex crap over and over again. Second, I have been called a loser over this - well then you might as well call Playboy and Maxim subscribers losers as well.

    Finally, when I release my model tribute montages on Youtube or Dailymotion OT has never had a problem with them. Another glamour site DMCA'ed one of my montages one day when half of it was a tribute to one of it's own damn models. OT never has, as a matter of fact lets me post them on their forum when I release them. That's another reason why I subscribe.

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    Maybe I can shed some light on the whole "I can tell he is doing the sex by eyeball thing."

    When people go through different thought processes, their expression and their body language will change. I can't really explain the nuances, but I can read people pretty well. So I know when a guy is thinking about sexual stuff about me by the ways his face changes.

    Btw, not ALL straight guys do the sex by eyeball thing. Way to generalize.
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    • #3
      Oh god yes the You just know thing is annoying. I was walking with my sister and she was telling me "All Mexican's want me I hate it you can just tell the they do" the guy she was referring to later gave me his number.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by McDreidel09 View Post
        Maybe I can shed some light on the whole "I can tell he is doing the sex by eyeball thing."

        When people go through different thought processes, their expression and their body language will change. I can't really explain the nuances, but I can read people pretty well. So I know when a guy is thinking about sexual stuff about me by the ways his face changes.
        Okay, but everybody's body language is different. A guy can be totally innocent and simply say "Hi" and someone could take it as "I want to have sex with you."

        Originally posted by McDreidel09 View Post
        Btw, not ALL straight guys do the sex by eyeball thing. Way to generalize.
        Yeah, I'm sure about that.

        BTW, the radio show I referenced? A man called in after the woman hung up. He said, "I'm pretty sure her sister works for my company! I almost got fired because a co-worker complained about me 'undressing her with my eyes.' I never even complimented her, because I know that these days you can get fired for telling a woman how nice she looks." DJ 1 asked him what he said. The man said he only talked about work with her and it was proven by talking to his colleagues, and said the woman's complaint was thrown out because the boss told her "unless she is a mind reader she has no proof."
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        • #5
          Well duh there is a difference between "hi" and "I want to have sex with you".

          Oh. You yourself are doing what irritates you in your OP. You say you hate how women just "know that a man is doing sex by eyeball", but here you are saying that you "know that every straight man does sex by eyeball." Not all straight guys do. I happen to know a couple, so by me just knowing a couple, that invalidates that point. It's called asexual with romantic tendencies. This means that one can love, but have no sexual desire whatsoever.

          I suggest you do some reading up on body language. It has been one of the most helpful things I have ever done. While everyone is different, people tend to do the same thing for certain things, such as looking in a certain direction when lying vs when telling the truth, or when people day dream, they get that glazed over look. I can't really explain when a guy is doing sex by eyeball, it is something one has to see. Plus, they give off that sexual vibe that you just have to feel to know. Then again, I am an empathetic person, so stuff like vibes comes naturally.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
            list that they want a man with a bachelor's or even a doctorate.

            I'd almost like to see them get all excited when some man with a doctorate either totally rejects them for not being able to understand what he's talking about....or hook up with a guy that has a doctorate in philosophy....pretty useless piece of paper...unless you want to teach it....
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            • #7
              Originally posted by McDreidel09 View Post
              Oh. You yourself are doing what irritates you in your OP. You say you hate how women just "know that a man is doing sex by eyeball", but here you are saying that you "know that every straight man does sex by eyeball." Not all straight guys do. I happen to know a couple, so by me just knowing a couple, that invalidates that point. It's called asexual with romantic tendencies. This means that one can love, but have no sexual desire whatsoever.
              Let me rephrase: I know of no straight man myself that does not do sex by eyeball. Asexual, by definition, means you're not attracted to anything so of course an asexual person will not have that thought, but he can "love" someone.

              My point was that it's a thought process, so how can women "know" what we're thinking?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                I'd almost like to see them get all excited when some man with a doctorate either totally rejects them for not being able to understand what he's talking about....or hook up with a guy that has a doctorate in philosophy....pretty useless piece of paper...unless you want to teach it....
                A woman doesn't have to understand what he is saying. To most people (men and women included) when someone has a doctorate it means $$$$$. Or at least the capability to make it.
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                • #9
                  Thought I'd throw a bit of a curve to the 'sex by eyeball' thing. When I was with my last girlfriend, she knew that I had plenty of female friends...including some that I wouldn't have minded seeing naked. Yes, I am a pig. Deal with it Seriously though, even though I'd occasionally check someone out, it was just a quick glance. I didn't stare, nor did I make crude comments. Along those lines, the two of us had an understanding. That is "look but don't touch." To us, looking at other people was only natural. Why get upset over it? We both trusted that we weren't going to cheat on each other.

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                  • #10
                    So is sadness, happiness, etc (thought processes) a person's face does tend to express what they are thinking by taking on that facial expression some guys will leer a bit when they are thinking of fucking a person rather than treating the person has a human that has a mind that hmm might be interesting.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                      So is sadness, happiness, etc (thought processes) a person's face does tend to express what they are thinking by taking on that facial expression some guys will leer a bit when they are thinking of fucking a person rather than treating the person has a human that has a mind that hmm might be interesting.
                      You can imagine having sex with someone without leering. Just saying.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
                        You can imagine having sex with someone without leering. Just saying.
                        Perhaps you just have high testosterone. Some people belive that George Bush is the greatest president of our life, others think Obama is. Nether of the two are invalid. In otherwords, just because YOU see all women as sex objects for you to undress and think about fucking, does NOT equate to All males doing that.

                        I know plenty of people, both male and female, who do not do sex by eyeball. Its called, you know, respect.

                        Granted, not all people are born with that, or even learn what it is. So they just keep doing it, because hey, it's their twisted mind and they can see all the naked people they want.

                        Just means you really objectifed them, as they are just sex tools in your mind.
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                        • #13
                          Contrary to your thinking, I don't think of women as merely sex objects. Once I talk to a girl I'll get to know the whole story on her (personality, etc) and take it from there.

                          As I said in a previous post, I would rather date a smart 6 than a dumb 10. If I just thought of women as sex objects as you seem to think, I wouldn't care.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
                            Contrary to your thinking, I don't think of women as merely sex objects. Once I talk to a girl I'll get to know the whole story on her (personality, etc) and take it from there.

                            As I said in a previous post, I would rather date a smart 6 than a dumb 10. If I just thought of women as sex objects as you seem to think, I wouldn't care.
                            I don't really belive that, since you prettty much stated that the second you see hot girl, you jump to thinking about having sex with her. Before you even talk to her. So yeah, if the first thing you do when you see a girl is thinking about how she looks naked and how best to fuck her, then you are treating them like as sex fuel for your own sex fantasy.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Plaidman View Post
                              I don't really belive that, since you prettty much stated that the second you see hot girl, you jump to thinking about having sex with her. Before you even talk to her. So yeah, if the first thing you do when you see a girl is thinking about how she looks naked and how best to fuck her, then you are treating them like as sex fuel for your own sex fantasy.
                              Let's say I see a girl in a lounge I think is beautiful. Since I don't know anything about her personality yet (whether she can understand what I am talking about, having the same or similar interests as me, etc....) of course I'm going to fantasize because the visual is all I have to go on at first. It's called being heterosexual.
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