Don't mess with "Disney creations"

[jackfaire]

This partly fits under pop culture but mostly it's an I hate thing.

Sparked by the last line on this blog http://www.cinematical.com/2010/07/1...orld/#comments

This isn't the first time I have heard a public outcry that some new movie is "ruining a Disney creation" when of course the Disney creation in question isn't even a Disney creation but rather the creation of someone who made the character or characters long before Disney was even the twinkling in Walt's eye.

These people need to get over themselves and stop thinking of Disney as some final authority on how we think of classic characters.

If anything the final say should belong to the current copyright holders The Great Ormond Street Hospital For Sick Children who apparently due to a copyright extension now hold the rights through 2023, but that is a different debate altogether.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I laugh my arse off when I hear people claiming stories like "Snow White" or "Alice In Wonderland" as being Disney creations. XXD Those people should dig out the original stories and read them, they're far better than the Disney versions.

Check this article out: http://www.cracked.com/article_18589...d-stories.html

I know it's Cracked, but fair points are made. Some people really need to get a clue and work out that Disney adapts stories as a general rule; they tend not to invent them. About the only invented stories are the ones they did with Pixar.

No, The Lion King story wasn't invented by Disney; it's based on Hamlet.

[Exaspera]

Folks need to read the Grimm's Fairy Tale of Cinderella.

[Hobbs]

Am I the only one thinking, "Don't they remember her?"

[tropicsgoddess]

I laugh my arse off when I hear people claiming stories like "Snow White" or "Alice In Wonderland" as being Disney creations. XXD Those people should dig out the original stories and read them, they're far better than the Disney versions.

Check this article out: http://www.cracked.com/article_18589...d-stories.html

I know it's Cracked, but fair points are made. Some people really need to get a clue and work out that Disney adapts stories as a general rule; they tend not to invent them. About the only invented stories are the ones they did with Pixar.

No, The Lion King story wasn't invented by Disney; it's based on Hamlet.

That and they cleaned up Hercules, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Hans Christian Andersn's Little Mermaid. Both of these had pretty sad endings to say the least and some not so kid/family friendly parts in the story. Besides that in Hunchback of Notre Dame, Frollo is made to be more on the evil side as opposed to the anti-hero type of character (being pious yet to a fanatical point while being disturbed of and obsessed with his lust towards Esmerelda) as well as making Phoebus a hero as opposed to the callous womanizer he is in the book.

[Lace Neil Singer]

When I was a kid, one of my favourite books ever was Charles Perrault's fairy tales. For example, Little Red Riding Hood. There is no woodcutter; she gets eaten by the wolf and serves her right for being so stupid. It's not just Disney who sanatise fairy tales, tho they are the worst culprits; a lot of Charles Perraut's fairy tales have been dumbed down and sanatised so that the poor ickle kiddies don't get all traumatised. Boo hoo. I read those stories as a child and didn't get traumatised. I doubt that most kids, unless unusually sensitive, would be, either.

[Ree]

Am I the only one thinking, "Don't they remember her?"

Actually, she was mentioned in the blog:

This time it's not Julia Roberts with a short red bob and skins for clothes.

[Hobbs]

Actually, she was mentioned in the blog:

What I meant was, "Julia's Tink turned into a life-sized woman and kissed Peter Pan b/c she'd been secretly in love with him...when he was a boy. And they're getting pissed off with this version? A version where the only thing they know is the actress?"

[Skelly]

That and they cleaned up Hercules, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Hans Christian Andersn's Little Mermaid. Both of these had pretty sad endings to say the least and some not so kid/family friendly parts in the story. Besides that in Hunchback of Notre Dame, Frollo is made to be more on the evil side as opposed to the anti-hero type of character (being pious yet to a fanatical point while being disturbed of and obsessed with his lust towards Esmerelda) as well as making Phoebus a hero as opposed to the callous womanizer he is in the book.

Yeah, what's up with Hercules being born to Zeus and Hera? If I remember my Greek mythology correctly, Zeus and Hera could barely stand each other, which may or may not have contributed to Zeus seducing mortal women left and right...one of them who later gave birth to Hercules...then again, infidelity, and the whole idea of people Having Secks is probably not something Disney wants to put in their movies...

[Ree]

What I meant was, "Julia's Tink turned into a life-sized woman and kissed Peter Pan b/c she'd been secretly in love with him...when he was a boy. And they're getting pissed off with this version? A version where the only thing they know is the actress?"

Ah. That makes sense.

[Stormraven]

From what I gather, Hera's biggest problem with Zeus was the infidelity. She's the Goddess of Marriage, after all, and fidelity is a big part of that. But because Zeus is the Biggest Boy on the Block, she really can't do much to him, so cursed the mortals and their children - which generally pissed off Zeus, so they fought a lot.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Also, the correct spelling is Heracles; Hercules is the Roman spelling. I know that sounds pedantic and nitpicky, but seeing as they gave all the other characters their Greek names, it just seems a bit stupid to me to give the main character the Roman spelling.

Heracles' mother was Alcmene, who was Zeus' great granddaughter. She was unswervingly faithful to her husband, so Zeus tricked her into sleeping with him by going to her disguised as Amphitryon, her husband, returning from war. He stayed three days with her before leaving; Alcmene's real husband arrived the next day. She was shocked and realised that the man she thought had been her husband must have been Zeus. When she gave birth to her baby son, she called him Heracles, which means "Glory of Hera", to try and appease Zeus' wife. It didn't work, as Hera traditionally hated all Zeus' lovers and illegitamate children.

Oh yeah, and Heracles was bisexual; he had both male and female lovers. He did get married to a woman and had kids, but Hera made him insane so he killed his wife and children. That's why he ended up doing the labours, to make up for that. Doesn't sound as tho Disney felt that to be family entertainment, does it?