Intruding Prudes

[muses_nightmare]

I actually don't know if she has seen me. Just that her husband has seen me. Although maybe he hasn't actually seen me because he has never said anything about it

Uh, wow. I'll give you the fact that maybe it's just the husband that's seen you, but either way someone has, and something has been said about it. Obviously one of them has seen you out there.

What other reason is there if they're complaining about something you yourself admit you do? Lucky guess?

Also, people are assuming the wife is jealous, which to be fair, could be the case, but there is also the possibility that they both just don't want to see you in the nude.

Like everyone said would it be so difficult to throw on a light robe, or heck you're underwear (since I assume you're wearing those regardless) so you're not flashing the public? Is it just laziness on your part? Or are you choosing to blatantly ignore the fact that someone does have a problem with you out there for some other reason?

[Ladeeda]

She's not ignoring it. She's trying to twist it and make it THEIR problem.

[KnitShoni]

Uh, wow. I'll give you the fact that maybe it's just the husband that's seen you, but either way someone has, and something has been said about it. Obviously one of them has seen you out there.

What other reason is there if they're complaining about something you yourself admit you do? Lucky guess?

Also, people are assuming the wife is jealous, which to be fair, could be the case, but there is also the possibility that they both just don't want to see you in the nude.

Like everyone said would it be so difficult to throw on a light robe, or heck you're underwear (since I assume you're wearing those regardless) so you're not flashing the public? Is it just laziness on your part? Or are you choosing to blatantly ignore the fact that someone does have a problem with you out there for some other reason?

Exactly. Someone saw you. The wife is saying it's her husband. If that's the case, then guess what: It bothered him enough to tell his wife about it. If she hasn't seen you, and he were enjoying it, you would never have heard a thing about it.

And this:

If he said he saw her naked, that could be mistaken as a come on, and put him in the wrong. It's not unusual at all for a man to have his wife or SO talk to the offending party on his behalf, woman to woman.

is the case more times than not.

[Greenday]

Or he's just plain embarrassed that he saw her naked.

[Red Panda]

From the wive's comments thats not the case. She is obviouse jelous and doesn't think her husband's actions should be taken care of by her husband

[KnitShoni]

From the wive's comments thats not the case. She is obviouse jelous and doesn't think her husband's actions should be taken care of by her husband

And you know this...how? What was the comment she made that would give you that impression? Unless you were there when he told her he saw you?

[Ladeeda]

E-go-tis-im. RP, no one is that devastatingly hot. Please, stop diluting yourself.

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

From the wive's comments thats not the case. She is obviouse jelous and doesn't think her husband's actions should be taken care of by her husband

Oh get over yourself. Now you're acting like you're the next Playboy Centerfold or something.

You are unable/unwilling to see that regardless of your opinion of yourself (justified or not) you are forcing your naked body on others in total disregard to their feelings on the matter, and for no logical reason.

You can get a "feel" for the weather by sticking an arm out the door, by putting on a nightgown and stepping outside, or any number of ways to cover your tits and bush and keep them from prying eyes without the inconvenience of having to dress before dressing for the day.

Not to fucking mention that you are basing your clothing choice on the feel of the weather in the morning when it can change in unexpected ways. Hell if weather was so goddamn easy to predict you'd think that trained meteorologists (you know, people with college degrees in this shit) would have a better track record than they do.

But no. You step out onto your balcony (which is considered public if it can be seen from public lands, usually streets and sidewalks) buck-assed naked and display your body to anyone and everyone who happens to look in your area all for the sake of not having to clutter your car with an emergency poncho (which there is one in my laptop case taking up a whopping 5.5in x 3.5in x 0.5in space) and a small folding umbrella which could fit in your glove compartment or under your seat (yet which you carry on as if you're you're making your car haul the contents of a Walmarts entire section of rain gear, backstock and all).

And mind you, that people will look. And not because they're looking specifically for you and your nudity, but because we are still holding on to a genetically passed-on instinct from the days long before we were the apex predator we are now. That instinct to look at anything that is not normal. A flash of movement, a color change, different light pattern, a new shadow, anything that was not there before...all these things make us look. Your balcony is one color (or one set of colors). When someone sees that color change or sees the movement or even the change in the light as you pull a curtain back or step into the doorway and create a shadow in the corner of their eye, there is a good chance that they will look in that direction. It is instinct. Some people are oblivious to it and can ignore it, others can't.

So when someone with the instinct sees the change in the normal patterns, they look and they see nudity. It's not that they thought "Gee I'm going to look to see if I can see Tits and Bush", they are going to look to identify the change in the environment.

I want to go back a few pages and touch base one something you said. What I am about to say is not my true feelings on the matter, but a response to the mindset you are presenting.

I don't like people who are so self centered that they think they can tell me to do something because they don't like it even though it doesn't have any affect on their life. They just think they can tell me to do whatever they want.

Someone abusing a puppy doesn't affect my life in any way.
Someone knocking over a liquor store does not affect me (I do not drink).
Someone selling her body on the street corner has no impact on my quality of life.
Someone jacking a deer out of season doesn't affect me.
Someone leaving their baby in a closed car with no air conditioner in the middle of summer doesn't affect me.
Some priest buttfucking an alter boy has no affect on me or my life.
Someone taking their just born child, tossing it in a trashcan and then going back into the High School Prom to continue to dance the night away has no affect on my life in any way.

Hell! I was living in Lacey TWP at the time that last one happened and beyond being on every news outlet (including the BBC), really had no impact on how I lived my life.

Yet some "self-centered" people decided that they were going to tell me and others like me that they can't do these things. These are called laws. Some I agree with, some laws I do not, and some do not affect me one way or another. Yet I have to obey them. Most places have indecency laws. Like it or lump it, women can not go topless in public in most places. And in even fewer places they can go completely sans apparel. If you are in an area where there are such laws and are displaying your naked form for all to see, you run the risk having that woman contact the police.

I have now said my piece and am now done. I know that my words are going to fall upon deaf ears (or blind eyes since this is all in text form) and that I have as much chance of changing her mind as I do of successfully attacking the White House with a banana. She will keep on doing what she is going to do and all we are doing here is to run around in circles.

I'm getting dizzy and I am getting off now.

[lupo pazzesco]

<applauds Mongo>

My hero. Nothing anyone says will change RP's opinion that she's above the rules and laws (speaking of being self-centered...irony much...?), and everyone else is quite obviously wrong. You said it beautifully, thus I applaud you. Well done and Thank You!

[Amanita]

^Applauds Mongo too.

So just because RP thinks she's hot, she's allowed to offend the neighbors and flout the laws concerning indecent exposure? Puh-lease.

[RavenStarr]

Come on Panda why don't you just come out and say it.......

*My body is perfect. There is nobody else that has a body as superior as mine. Therefore I will go out on my balcony naked because I want everyone to see and bow down to the awesomeness that is me*

Seriously though if you keep doing this, eventually it will bite you in the ass.

Also I have I have to ask. Is your assumption that the lady is jealous making you want to step out naked even more? I get the feeling your answer would be yes.

[Red Panda]

I'm surprised by the people who apparently have such low self images about themselves that they think a person who is attractive must be vapid and only think about how hot she is. I do have other motivations in life you know. Just because I'm good looking it doesn't mean that is the only part of my personality nor does being less attractive automatically make you more intelligent or aware.

[Amanita]

My self image has nothing to do with the fact that I think you're in the wrong here. Regardless of whether you're the best looking thing ever, or morbidly obese, the laws concerning public nudity still apply. And when you are in a place where the public can see you and you are naked, that's breaking the law in many places.

Hell, even if I were the finest looking woman in the world with the best self-image, I would not be naked in public where others could see me, because I would not wish to break the law, or impose my nakedness on those who didn't wish to view it

Sorry red, but attacking everyone who disagrees, suggesting that we have lousy self image or are less attractive, just reeks of "neener neener, you're all just jealous!"

[Ladeeda]

I'm surprised by the people who apparently have such low self images about themselves that they think a person who is attractive must be vapid and only think about how hot she is.

You said it, we didn't.

And you're just proving everyone who... well, everyone but yourself correct. You are a vain, entitled exhibitionist.

[KnitShoni]

I'm surprised by the people who apparently have such low self images about themselves that they think a person who is attractive must be vapid and only think about how hot she is. I do have other motivations in life you know. Just because I'm good looking it doesn't mean that is the only part of my personality nor does being less attractive automatically make you more intelligent or aware.

People are surprised about your obvious double standard. People are surprised that you apparently think laws and rules of common decency apparently don't apply to you. People are surprised that you automatically assume that because they disagree with your actions and the image you present, that means they are not attractive/less attractive/have a low self image. People (or, that may just be me) are surprised that you don't realize that, if you have to tell someone you have other motivations in life than how attractive you are, that means maybe you haven't really done a good job presenting yourself as a person with other motivations.

Some of us don't judge intelligence by attractiveness. Some of us do so based on the words spoken (or typed, in this case) and actions. Your words show you to be a narcissist who doesn't give a damn if you offend others with your actions, but heaven forbid others offend you for merely existing.

Remember, we haven't seen you. We don't know if you're actually hot, or if you're just saying you are. We also don't know if you'd be considered hot by each of our individual standards. In my personal experience, people who feel the need to tell others how attractive they are really don't have much in the way of other motivators in their lives.