Prostitution

[Hyena Dandy]

The problem I see with "IF we legalize prostitution, they'll go elsewhere for their sick needs" is that it is a very dehumanizing argument. Should the prostittues have to deal with those sick needs?

[Rapscallion]

The problem I see with "IF we legalize prostitution, they'll go elsewhere for their sick needs" is that it is a very dehumanizing argument. Should the prostittues have to deal with those sick needs?

Er, either they are going to prostitutes for sick needs anyway, in which case they can generally be catered to, or the sickness is as seen from the perspective of someone disapproving. Did I miss something?

Rapscallion

[Boozy]

And by "his girls", he meant we were his "daughters" and he was fiercely protective of us.

I'm a bit creeped out by that. He was a good boss in that he was concerned for his employees' safety and his own company's reputation, but referring to your employees as "daughters" isn't appropriate. Especially if your employees' job is to take off their clothes.

[Eisa]

Regardless, I would probably work for him if I wanted to be a stripper.

I think prostitution should be legalized. And set up like a business. Because maybe that way, the underage kids could get out of it, and people wouldn't be forced into it. Plus there could be health screenings and stuff. Like the places Raps went to. Those sounded perfectly fine to me.

[Hyena Dandy]

Er, either they are going to prostitutes for sick needs anyway, in which case they can generally be catered to, or the sickness is as seen from the perspective of someone disapproving. Did I miss something?

Rapscallion

Oh, to explain.

There was a comment earlier in the thread that we shouldn't legalize prostitution because people will import human slaves to take care of their sick needs. Which I feel is de-humanizing, because that argument has this sort of hint to it that its alright they're beating prostitutes. Otherwise we have prostitutes being beaten, and other people left alone, which is perfectly fine. But if we stop the prostitutes from being beaten, then it'll go on to other people who AREN'T prostitutes. It feels like its saying "Don't legalize prostitution, or else real people will get hurt."

If prostitutes are being mistreated, they need protection, like anyone else. And I think the first step to protecting the prostitutes is to legalize prostitution, so that what they're doing isn't illegal.

[MadMike]

I agree with the late great George Carlin who once asked, "Why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away?"

It's not something I'd ever do myself. I'd feel like a loser if I felt the only way I could get it was to pay for it. But if two (or more) consenting adults want to do it for money, what business is it of mine, and more importantly the government's?

[Rapscallion]

Oh, to explain.

There was a comment earlier in the thread that we shouldn't legalize prostitution because people will import human slaves to take care of their sick needs. Which I feel is de-humanizing, because that argument has this sort of hint to it that its alright they're beating prostitutes. Otherwise we have prostitutes being beaten, and other people left alone, which is perfectly fine. But if we stop the prostitutes from being beaten, then it'll go on to other people who AREN'T prostitutes. It feels like its saying "Don't legalize prostitution, or else real people will get hurt."

If prostitutes are being mistreated, they need protection, like anyone else. And I think the first step to protecting the prostitutes is to legalize prostitution, so that what they're doing isn't illegal.

Makes a bit more sense, thanks.

It's not something I'd ever do myself. I'd feel like a loser if I felt the only way I could get it was to pay for it. But if two (or more) consenting adults want to do it for money, what business is it of mine, and more importantly the government's?

Well, the only business of the government should be to tax it like they do every other profession.

Rapscallion

[Mytical]

Sex, Nudity, etc is 'Taboo'. Why when Nudity is our most natural state I have no idea, but that is beside the point..and it seems in the US I am in the minority with that thought. I won't even get into the confusion of how some churches are very anti-nudity (etc)..that just cornfuses (misspelled on purpose) the heck outta me.

Personally, even being a virgin, I would have no interest in a prostitute. The one time I went to a strip club (dragged by my cousin) I was bored out of my mind. No interest in porn either *shrugs*. Then again I am strange . I do believe legalizing it would better protect the people who chose to work in the industry, and help those who don't get out.

[Greenday]

Sex, Nudity, etc is 'Taboo'. Why when Nudity is our most natural state I have no idea, but that is beside the point..and it seems in the US I am in the minority with that thought. I won't even get into the confusion of how some churches are very anti-nudity (etc)..that just cornfuses (misspelled on purpose) the heck outta me.

Go about your normal day and count how many people are walking around naked doing their normal daily routine. That's why it's taboo. You probably won't even get to one.

Churches are about reproducing with your husband/wife. Anything that isn't involved with that is against the Christian religion (and Judaism and Muslim as far as I'm aware). Your spouse is the only one who is supposed to see you naked. Hope that clears up the confusion.

[Mytical]

Two years ago I would have said "You'd be surprised" because one of my friends was a nudist (and when I visited..I seen a LOT of nude people going about their normal business), but since they moved away you are correct. Wouldn't even be able to find one.

[Rapscallion]

Go about your normal day and count how many people are walking around naked doing their normal daily routine. That's why it's taboo. You probably won't even get to one.

The fact that I'm in the UK and most of the time it's brass monkey weather has something to do with it. It's because we lack the levels of fur that protect animals, methinks.

Churches are about reproducing with your husband/wife. Anything that isn't involved with that is against the Christian religion (and Judaism and Muslim as far as I'm aware). Your spouse is the only one who is supposed to see you naked. Hope that clears up the confusion.

Er, doesn't necessarily have to be about religion. That's one aspect of it, since religions often tell you to do relatively minor things, including clothing - skullcaps, Sunday best. yarmulkes, priest's robes etc.

According to the christian religion, though, the state of perfect innocence was naked in the garden of Eden, from what I remember, so I don't think that quite works as an argument.

Rapscallion

[Greenday]

Except it's no longer innocent.

[Andara Bledin]

I remember watching some version of The Tempest or some similar epic tale on TV one time.

The fae in the story were denoted by the fact that they didn't wear clothing, for the most part, just some adornments as suited their tastes and rank.

The first time one of them showed up on screen I was, "Whoa, is that person naked?" A few more of them later it was, "Huh, looks like all the fae are in various states of nudity." By half an hour into the show, I'd gotten to the point of, "Oh, another fae," and the fact that there were naked people on screen had become a total non-issue.

It'd be nice if we, as a species, could get over this freakish body fetish we've got going on.

^-.-^

[Rapscallion]

Except it's no longer innocent.

Why would that be?

Rapscallion

[BlaqueKatt]

if we had legal regulated brothels we wouldn't have this or this

craigslist serial killers-they hired sex workers off of CL and brutally murdered them, you think that would happen if the women had worked in a safe environment such as a brothel?