Just for the record, if Wal-Mart's business practices make you uncomfortable, then you should definitely be boycotting Tyson.
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Originally posted by Andara Bledin View PostWalmart has spent over $1,000,000.00 to fight the $7,000.00 fine that OSHA slapped them with for the trampling death of an employee on Black Friday on the grounds that it wasn't reasonable to suspect that the crowd would behave like that.
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Originally posted by McDreidel09 View PostI tend to shop at Wal-Mart because it tends to be cheaper for me. [snip]
Then again, I am a college student with a very small budget to work with.
Back home in an urban area, however, it's a pain in the butt to get to the closest Wal Mart and I find it to be a horrible experience if I make the trek. I don't mind paying a few extra bucks for staying close to home. It depends on where you are, I guess...I'm pretty torn about the whole thing TBH. A lot of trendy people around here talk about how evil Walmart is, but then again, many of them didn't go to college on a "bare bones" budget like I did.
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Bottom line: Wal-Mart might suck, but they still manage to get you in there to buy stuff, so they must be doing something right.
I try to be hypocritical as little as possible. If I don't like a store, and say I don't like a store, I don't patronise the store.
I hate Petco, also. Haven't set foot in one of those for years as well, and never will.
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Originally posted by guywithashovel View PostBottom line: Wal-Mart might suck, but they still manage to get you in there to buy stuff, so they must be doing something right."You are a true believer. Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses. Thou art a subject of the divine. Created in the image of man, by the masses, for the masses. Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy more and be happy."
-- OMM 0000
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People shop at Wal-Mart normally because 1) It IS cheap. 2) Often it is the 'only game in town'. While there are stores that carry similar things, it is one of the few places that has everything in one store AND a large selection. I personally prefer to avoid it, but am forced to go from time to time for various reasons. I shop there maybe once a month..if that. Never by choice. Thankfully the internet has gotten to the point I can get just about anything delivered to me, and I have to visit less and less.
It's not the employees, it is often not the customers, it is the corporation. *shrugs*
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The only thing that I hate about Walmart, is the stupid website of People of Walmart that has masses of people making fun of how people look.
Including a few members from CS, which just baffles me that people can be so heartless to make fun of how someone looks.Toilet Paper has been "bath tissue" for the longest time, and it really chaps my ass - Blas
I AM THE MAN of the house! I wear the pants!!! But uh...my wife buys the pants so....yeah.
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Originally posted by gremcint View PostIf they pay that then they admit guilt, then they get sued by probably a lot more than 1000000
With a moving violation (going 5 over the limit for example) that didn't do any harm to anyone, this is fine. No one is going to sue you for admitting that you were in a hurry and just didn't care about the speed limit.
But Walmart paying the fine and saying "Yeah, we're guilty. Our Bad!" means that the family could then sue for the wrongful death and then end up being sued for much more than a million. Could even be in the tens of millions.
Besides. I put the blame on the people who did the trampling in the first place.
Sure Walmart put items up on a promotion. Sure they only had a limited number and a first come-first served policy. But it was the customers who made the decision to allow themselves become mindless animals and rush the store like a pack of starving wolves going after a rabbit with a broken leg.
There have been rushes like this at stores other than Walmart for equally stupid reasons. Look at the mobs that formed over the "Tickle Me Elmo" dolls when they first came out. Some in the Virgina area may remember the story of the child they made carry her doll past the mobs for the Television News crews. The people were trying to offer that child outrageous gobs of cash and/or trying to muscle past the security guards in order to snatch it from that poor kid's arms.
When the Wii came out they were harder to find than a fart in a jacuzzi and there were fist fights at GameStop, Target, K-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City (when they were still around), Toys-R-Us...
This kind of behavior is getting more and more common and it is not because of Walmart. That bit was in the news because it was at the height of the publicized "Walmart Bad!" phase and it got ratings.
I hate Walmart for varying reasons, but that's largely due to the quality of the people both shopping at and working for the local Walmart. I've been to others where the experience was far better.“There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea's asleep and the rivers dream, people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to do.” - Sylvester McCoy as the Seventh Doctor.
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Originally posted by Plaidman View PostThe only thing that I hate about Walmart, is the stupid website of People of Walmart that has masses of people making fun of how people look.
Including a few members from CS, which just baffles me that people can be so heartless to make fun of how someone looks.
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Originally posted by Mongo Skruddgemire View PostBut Walmart paying the fine and saying "Yeah, we're guilty. Our Bad!" means that the family could then sue for the wrongful death and then end up being sued for much more than a million. Could even be in the tens of millions.
Originally posted by Mongo Skruddgemire View PostBesides. I put the blame on the people who did the trampling in the first place.
Sure Walmart put items up on a promotion. Sure they only had a limited number and a first come-first served policy. But it was the customers who made the decision to allow themselves become mindless animals and rush the store like a pack of starving wolves going after a rabbit with a broken leg.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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Originally posted by Andara Bledin View PostWalmart had a sign outside referring to the line as a "blitz line." They had no crowd control outside the store at all. Anyone with even a smattering of knowledge on the way crowd dynamics works could have told you that this sort of thing would happen. The only real surprise is that they got away with so few deaths attributable to the situation they set up.
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But the people, the customers, the consumers who were willing to trample any poor fucker too weak to withstand the onslaught and fall at their feet are in my mind the ones the most to blame.
They made the decision to act like a bunch of mindless animals.
And animals is the closest thing I can compare them to. Ever watch Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe? There was a bit in the first season where Mike Rowe was at a Pig Farm outside of Las Vegas where they take the scraps of food from the casinos and restaurants and process it and feed it to the pigs. The way the pigs would climb over each other to get to the food trough reminds the fuck out of me, of all the people who are willing to run some poor soul over, just so they can get a Wii Fit for cheap.
You know what? I made decisions these past Christmases. I made the decision to do my shopping on line. I made the decision to avoid Black Friday. I made the decision to buy what I could afford to buy. I made the decision to budget and plan on having to pay full retail price for all of my purchases. I made the decision to look for REASONABLE bargains.
I made the decision to not be an animal.
They did not and were it my perfect Utopian world, every person in that mob that trampled the person who died would be brought up on manslaughter charges.
And I will re-state that this sort of stuff doesn't happen at Walmart alone. There were cases of violence in any store that sold a "hot item of the year". If you were to shut down Walmart as a corporate entity because of this crap, you'd have to shut down damn near any business that had the audacity to have a "hot item of the year".
And then where would we shop?“There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea's asleep and the rivers dream, people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to do.” - Sylvester McCoy as the Seventh Doctor.
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