****ing Fanboys!

[ArenaBoy]

I post on a soccer forum, crapload of boards (Sly you'll like this). On the Chelsea team we have a German playing for us at the moment (This is important). Good player. Now on our boards we get the occasional visitor who is wondering how a player on our squad who happens to play for the visitor's country is doing. Most of the time they're usually polite and will either just move on checking back occasionally or will be friendly enough and give us suggestions for players we might need. The first part as I said, are quite nice.

However, there's the idiots who get on our nerves and have such a strange love to the player that it's not even ****ing funny. As I mentioned earlier, we have a German playing for us. We've had the occasional visitor but there is this one German national team fanboy that is getting some of us really pissed off. He is suggesting that we get a midfielder because one of our midfielders (Who has been getting us 19-20 goals a season) is "too static" for us. This same midfielder has won us a lot. And no matter how we put it to him it's driving us nuts that he still can't get the point. It's gotten bad that even his fellow supporters are thinking he's nuts.

*******ING FANBOYS!

[Slytovhand]

Hey AB... (shouldn't really say that, cos AB is Alan Border... as everyone should know )

Who are you referring to? Ballack??

As far as I know, Chelsea has a few good midfielders... (but not good enough to win the damn trophy!!! )

But yes.. I hate 'fanboys'.. of any type. I go to a game, I want to see a good game, not just a win by my team, or a goal or 2 by my 'fave' player (who, strangely enough, would probably be Giggs... and he's MU, not Spurs... go figure!). I don't like seeing 17-nil.. cos that's not a good game.. even if it is Spurs pounding Chelsea (hehehe). I'd rather see nil-all .. say MU vs L'pool.. at least there's some damn good talent being displayed there!

Becks. Grrr... yeah.. he's great at taking a shot or 2, and not half bad in his usual role.. but other than that... yeah, others can take him easily enough.

But then.. there is the other side of the coin as well... take Kewell, or Viduka (someone.. anyone, please, just take them ). Yes, they are damn good at what they do... when they do it! And taking them out of a position that they are used to, and prefer, because 'they're good', and dumping them elsewhere and expecting them to perform equally as well is just plain stupid! Which is why Aust has a bad habit of not doing as well as we could... cos of the coaches and management. So it would annoy the crap out of me to rev someone cos they don't do any good... while they're out of their normal position...


Slyt

[ArenaBoy]

Who are you referring to? Ballack??

Yep. Ballack. He's had a hell of a comeback.

As far as I know, Chelsea has a few good midfielders... (but not good enough to win the damn trophy!!! )

A lot better than United's in my opinion. Makelele is still the best at defensive midfield (For a lot of reasons) and Essien brings that drive we need. He belongs in midfield. Not at fucking right back. (Yes Grant, put Essien up against Cristiano Ronaldo.)

But yes.. I hate 'fanboys'.. of any type. I go to a game, I want to see a good game, not just a win by my team, or a goal or 2 by my 'fave' player (who, strangely enough, would probably be Giggs... and he's MU, not Spurs... go figure!). I don't like seeing 17-nil.. cos that's not a good game.. even if it is Spurs pounding Chelsea (hehehe). I'd rather see nil-all .. say MU vs L'pool.. at least there's some damn good talent being displayed there!

Truth be told I'm a fan Ludovic Giuly. The only United player I'd poach from them would be Tevez. Our midfield and defense is loads better than theirs anyway. (Terry stopping Giggs' shot. Enough said.)

But then.. there is the other side of the coin as well... take Kewell, or Viduka (someone.. anyone, please, just take them ). Yes, they are damn good at what they do... when they do it! And taking them out of a position that they are used to, and prefer, because 'they're good', and dumping them elsewhere and expecting them to perform equally as well is just plain stupid! Which is why Aust has a bad habit of not doing as well as we could... cos of the coaches and management. So it would annoy the crap out of me to rev someone cos they don't do any good... while they're out of their normal position...

Kewell seemed to fall off the wagon big time at Liverpool. Viduka's decent, was a brilliant signing for Newcastle (Still wish they'd give Allardyce a chance).

Again, I refer to you Michael Essien (We only used him at RB because of injuries) and my personal favorite, Nicolas Anelka on the right wing. Then there was a great one: Robert Huth. Up front. WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING JOSE?! Then again Ranieri was a tactical nightmare at times (Hey Huth on the wings!)

And we had the fanboy problem again, the worse offenders seem to be La Liga and Germany fans. I especially love the La Liga fans mainly because they think they're great when not too long ago Chelsea dumped Barcelona out of the Champions League with a score of 4-2. The first three Chelsea goals being scored within 20 minutes. Oh how I laughed.

EDIT: Hey sly, remember this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=MeIzUpD4FGM

[Slytovhand]

Hey AB...

I only just got around to that youtube, cos mostly I'm on at work...

No.. I don't recall that one... we didn't watch it...

do you happen to recall this one at all??

hehehe



Slyt

[protege]

Damn...and I thought the car guys had it bad

Seriously, we have to deal with the ricers. These fools think that a few stickers, a body kit, fart can, and a monster stereo...will suddenly turn their base-model Honda Civic, into something that can outdrag a Corvette. The vast majority of them also think that putting a huge piece of plastic (namely a spoiler) on their trunk, or a fart can (an annoyingly loud exhaust) will increase their horsepower.

Sadly, neither will do that. All a spoiler does is add drag, which helps keep the rear wheels on the pavement. On a FWD car though, it doesn't do jack...other than add weight. Fart cans don't do a thing either...other than annoy the fuck out of people in traffic. Many ricers claim that they add horsepower. Again, they don't. Replacing the entire exhaust from the headers on back might bring an additional 5-10 horses to play with...but simply replacing the tip won't do jack

Then there are the idiots who "lower" their cars by cutting the springs...and can't understand why their car's handling sucks now. Uh, it's because you've upset the suspension geometry, you idiots! I know why they do it--lowering the car gives a lower center of gravity, and thus, better handling. However, if you don't do it properly, it's pointless.

These same idiots usually rant about how Japanese horsepower is better than American horsepower Last time I checked, horsepower is horsepower. However, what you really want, is torque. Tune an engine to produce lots of torque, and horsepower will take care of itself...

Where was I going with this? It's because of things like this, that quite a few tuners (or hot rodders) don't take them seriously. Why should they? They do *not* know what they're doing, and make those who *do* pretty pissed.

[Slytovhand]

and make those who *do* pretty pissed

And make those who have no interest in them really really pissed at hearing the same boring
crap over and over and over again..... grrrrr

(No - not you Protege - you've probably seen my post on CS about a workmate....)

Slyt

[protege]

(No - not you Protege - you've probably seen my post on CS about a workmate....)

Slyt

Ah, good then

To add a bit more, the reason many tuners don't like ricers, is that they're so predictable. For example, if someone disses their ride (usually a Civic, or similar low-priced vehicle), the ricer always claims it's due to jealousy, not being able to afford one, or that one's penis isn't big enough. Oh, and there's also the gay (or "ghey" as it's usually spelled) comment.

Let's break that down a bit... The Civic isn't a bad car at all, millions have them and love them. I'm not one of those people--I'm an MG/Toyota/Mazda person Because there are so many of those cars around, I can't be "jealous" of someone who has one. A Ferrari 330GT owner. Possibly, but not of some common economy car. Sorry, not happening.

"You can't afford it." Well, considering that I bought a house, have an MG and the Corolla, so you're right. I *can't* afford one

"Your penis is small." Er...what? Let's toss their logic back at them. If someone has a small dick, they're going to buy a Corvette, not some stupid economy car

Then there's the "ghey" argument. For example "if you don't like my ride, you must be gay." Sorry, but I don't see how one's car determines a person's sexuality.

[Slytovhand]

Protege... you surprise me!

You go from an MG (understandable)... to Toyotas and Mazdas.... wow! (unless you've got a few models I'm not aware of...).

Ferarri I can understand... Porsche... Alpha, BMW, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc...

But Toyota and Mazda??


For me... I start my liking expensive... and then come down to 'this is what I can afford, don't really care what it is... well, as long as it isn't Hyundai ' (currently in a Nissan Pulsar)

Over in this part of the world is the contest between Ford and Holden. Neither of which I've particularly loved over the years...


Slyt

[protege]

Well, Toyota once built the rapid Supra, and Mazda had the RX-7 and -8. Never had one of those, admittedly. Ferraris just have that glorious engine note. So do some Jaguars (mainly the E-types, and V12s), Astons, etc. However, you don't see many Astons and shows, and most of the Jags are straight-sixes. Most of the newer BMW and Mercedes are just so "poser-riffic" it's not even funny.

I admit, I am a Toyota fan--I'm on my second (Corolla this time, Tercel before that. Mazda Protege in between). I don't like Hyundais either. Something about having the driver's seat in a new Elantra collapse under my weight turned me off to their quality

But (and getting back on topic here), I try not to turn into a raging fanboy over various makes. I have my preferences...but those are driven from *experience* rather than ignorance. I also don't follow what's popular. For example, at many shows, it seems everyone and their mom has a 1955-57 Chevy. They're nice cars, but I'd rather have a '58. The '58 is much lower (not quite as low as a '59), but sleeker. Plus, you don't see them.

Damn. I've derailed this thread again. What I'm trying to say is, it's OK to support your favorite team, car company, etc. What's *not* OK, is being a jackass about it. If you've read up on it, fine. At least you can say "I don't like Brand X (or Team X) for *this* reason." I'd rather hear that, than "Brand X (or Team X) sucks." Unless you're the Pittsburgh Pirates. For them, sucking is expected