Swearing

[jackfaire]

What are some examples of swear words that were used in ancient times?

I do not bite my thumb at thee sir but I do bite my thumb

Question what if the person uses cartoon swearing would that violate the spirit of the rules?

The comics code often prevented swearing so artists would have the character say ie Donald, "%*^&%$"

Wow Donald seriously language man there are children reading your comic.

[Ree]

Question what if the person uses cartoon swearing would that violate the spirit of the rules?

The comics code often prevented swearing so artists would have the character say ie Donald, "%*^&%$"

I would see the all symbols thing as fine because they represent the anger that would cause swearing, but not actual swearing. The symbols could mean any word. It's a sign that the person wants to use swearing but is self censoring out of good taste.

In the examples that DrFaroohk used in his OP, enough of the word is left in that it's pretty obvious what is being said, so all the symbols really do is make it slightly more work or family safe and get past the swear filters.

[DrFaroohk]

If you know that the action you are taking is against the spirit of the rules you have agreed to abide by, you're not only not "bucking authority," you're showing yourself to lack honor and have questionable morals.

To which I reply, which is more important, the spirit or the letter? Or the letter of the law? Cuz I can argue for both. If you're going to say the spirit, then great, I have a whole list of shit I'm going to throw back at you that are in the spirit of the law but not the letter. And vice versa.

Now...

People who split hairs and whine, "It didn't specifically say that in the rules.

It's not always that simple. Sure, the rules might say "No swearing". to the obvious observer, that means no swearing at all. Fine, I can live with that.

But wait, Avatar1982 just said goddammit! Isn't that a swear? oh, but his post didn't get deleted and I don't see an infraction on his profile, so I guess it's ok to say goddammit.

So then I say goddammit, because the mods made it clear that it's ok to say goddammit.

Then I see that Rising_Star_4_U@gmail.com has just said "ni&&er". WEll that's prettyy obvious what she said, and yet, no mod deleted or edited it, and she has no infractions on her profile. Therefore, mods have made it clear that it's ok to say ni&&er.

So yeah, I go with the flow of what I see. It's the authoritative body's job to keep these things consistent. Being in power doesn't mean "Oh yay I get to make all the rules and be Lord unto this domain!" It means you have a lot of shit to do. You have to be fair, you have to be consistent, a nd you have to follow your own rules.

When you allow one thing, you're allowing it for everyone. you can't pick and choose like that. If you let me say nigger, you have to let everyone. You can't let jackfaire say bullshit but ban me for saying bullshit.

To clarify, it's none of the mods here that did it.

[Nyoibo]

And you know this for a fact?

What are some examples of swear words that were used in ancient times?

Are they recorded for posterity somewhere?

Seriously, I am very curious.

I'll see if I can find the article I was read, it was a while ago but it was a very interesting read.


(And may I point out they didn't walk on the moon either. )[/QUOTE]

That we know of, but they had pictures of spacemen.

[Amanita]

I remember seeing some pretty racy examples of ancient roman graffiti around the ruins of pompeii..some of which might make a trucker blush.

As for the example of using the actual curse word "Fuck" for example, and trying to get around the swear filter/prohibition by typing F***, F**K, or some other variation, one board I'm on has that covered. The rules state that both versions- the full word, and the starred-out version are not allowed. And using dashes instead of stars to get around the rules doesn't fly either.

[Dips]

I just don't consider "bucking" authority to be that bad. It's one of those things you just have to deal with if you want to be in power. You left a loophole, I took advantage of it. Get over it.

Interesting, given how you don't seem to care much for it when someone bucks your authority:

http://www.fratching.com/showthread.php?t=4799

Maybe it's better to stop fighting battles over stupid things like putting on shoe or being able to swear. You can end up losing out on things you enjoy.

The fact that you're so angry about this tells me the consequences of your choices probably weren't worth it to you.

This is just a guess, mind you. I certainly don't have enough details to be certain.

[Andara Bledin]

To which I reply, which is more important, the spirit or the letter? Or the letter of the law? Cuz I can argue for both.

A forum is a community run at the whim of the owner, whose rules are enforced by the people they have chosen to be moderators.

Your statement shows that you fully understand the intent of the rule that was in place and chose to show the entire community that you have no respect at all for either owner or moderators or the community itself by doing something that goes directly against those intentions because the rules were written to be read by a community and not by lawyers.

Honestly, the way you make that statement makes you sound anti-social at best.

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[Ree]

It's not always that simple. Sure, the rules might say "No swearing". to the obvious observer, that means no swearing at all. Fine, I can live with that.

But wait, Avatar1982 just said goddammit! Isn't that a swear? oh, but his post didn't get deleted and I don't see an infraction on his profile, so I guess it's ok to say goddammit.

So then I say goddammit, because the mods made it clear that it's ok to say goddammit.

Then I see that Rising_Star_4_U@gmail.com has just said "ni&&er". WEll that's prettyy obvious what she said, and yet, no mod deleted or edited it, and she has no infractions on her profile. Therefore, mods have made it clear that it's ok to say ni&&er.

So yeah, I go with the flow of what I see. It's the authoritative body's job to keep these things consistent. Being in power doesn't mean "Oh yay I get to make all the rules and be Lord unto this domain!" It means you have a lot of shit to do. You have to be fair, you have to be consistent, a nd you have to follow your own rules.

When you allow one thing, you're allowing it for everyone. you can't pick and choose like that. If you let me say nigger, you have to let everyone. You can't let jackfaire say bullshit but ban me for saying bullshit.

Did it ever occur to you that the mods can't read EVERY SINGLE post, and perhaps they haven't seen the other posts?

It never does occur to people. They want to automatically assume bias.

Uh, no.

Then because a mod didn't read the other post and it wasn't reported, but they happened to read yours, or yours got reported, so sad for you but you're on the radar.

If you see examples of other members guilty of the very same actions, but left unchecked, why not copy and paste the links or quotes and give specific examples of that rather than assume it's a mod picking and choosing which rules to enforce, and which members to moderate?

[protege]

Did it ever occur to you that the mods can't read EVERY SINGLE post, and perhaps they haven't seen the other posts?

That's exactly it. CS has several thousand posts, and I'm sure that several hundred show up every day. Do you really think that we have the time to read them all? Some of us work full-time, have families, other interests () and simply can't spend hours reading the entire site each day. With that said, posts do fall by the wayside from time to time.

Back on topic somewhat, I do know people who use profanity as every word in a sentence. They can't put a complete sentence together without multiple curse words in it. Is that the mark of an educated person? I have to say, that it's not. To me, it sounds like someone just found the AOL chat rooms for the first time, and/or is attempting to sound 'tough.' There are plenty of ways to insult someone without calling them a "cocksucker" or an "asshole." Trust me on this. However, if someone has no imagination...they're not likely to call someone a "twinkle-toed fuck pixie"

Profane? Probably. However, calling someone a "TTFP" usually causes their train of thought to derail, and a "what the fuck did you just call me?" to be asked. They're not expecting it. It adds a bit of spice to the argument

[DrFaroohk]

Interesting, given how you don't seem to care much for it when someone bucks your authority:

That is a case of willful disobedience, not a different interpretation of the rules.

but funny, how the people in charge are always such sticklers for the rules, they often actively look for reasons to use their power on people just to be able to enforce the rules. But as soon as someone has outsmarted them they lose it and turn 10 years old again. They're like the people who are losing at chess so they just kick the whole board over.

Did it ever occur to you that the mods can't read EVERY SINGLE post, and perhaps they haven't seen the other posts?

It never does occur to people. They want to automatically assume bias.

Did it ever occur to some mods that not everyone has time to read through a long, drawn out TOS or forum rules post? No, of course not. They assume everyone wants to sit down and read it. Oh, wait, are youi saying it's my responsibility to read the TOS? Just like it's the mods responsibility to do their job and read the effing posts.

Remember - Ignorance is no excuse.

[Andara Bledin]

Wow. The sense of entitlement and self-serving blame-shifting is overwhelming.

There's no point in trying to argue with someone who is so convinced that they're in the right that they've closed their minds to any other possibility.

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[DrFaroohk]

Wow. The sense of entitlement and self-serving blame-shifting is overwhelming.

There's no point in trying to argue with someone who is so convinced that they're in the right that they've closed their minds to any other possibility.

^-.-^

The only entitlement I have is that to be treated fairly. That means receiving the same punishments as all others. Not special ones for me to make an example.

And I'm convinced I'm right because I AM right. I haven't closed my mind to other possibilities, but I am merely using the same arguments used on ME when I am in trouble for something, whether it's being grounded by parents, fired from job or suspended on an internet forum.

The fact that people are so unwilling to accept their own arguments being used on them shows how full of shit they really are.

[the_std]

You have no entitlement to be treated fairly when someone else is paying for the forum. It is not YOURS. It is THEIRS. And by joining, you agree to know and abide by THEIR rules. They can do whatever the hell they want, and there's nothing you can do about it. So if you have a problem, either put up or shut up.

[DrFaroohk]

You have no entitlement to be treated fairly when someone else is paying for the forum. It is not YOURS. It is THEIRS. And by joining, you agree to know and abide by THEIR rules. They can do whatever the hell they want, and there's nothing you can do about it. So if you have a problem, either put up or shut up.

No one has the right to be a dick.

My right to not be dicked around with transcends all legal and governmental rights. That's just how it is. Everyone else has that same right. Don't screw with people.

By definition, punishing me and not someone else for the same thing is screwing with me.

[the_std]

I don't know where you think that right comes from. Like I said, you're playing in their backyard. They can do whatever the hell they want. No one cares what rights you make up for yourself. The mods on THIS forum do try to be fair and nice, but they are under no obligation to do so at all. You do not deserve anything from them.