Swearing

[jackfaire]

Did it ever occur to some mods that not everyone has time to read through a long, drawn out TOS or forum rules post? No, of course not. They assume everyone wants to sit down and read it. Oh, wait, are youi saying it's my responsibility to read the TOS?

I have to say right now you sound like some of my worst customers.

"Why is it my responsibility to read all that mail you send me like my bill. Why isn't it your responsibility to do whatever it takes to make sure that every single individual is aware they owe you money. Why aren't you going door to door?"

Yes it is your responsibility. If you don't like how the forum is run or the company does business then leave the forum or do business with another company.

If you don't like how your being treated then walk away. Your right you have the right to not be treated badly. People also have the right to treat you badly. Not that I think they are.

You have a very negative outlook and are close to a tinfoil hat. If something doesn't go your way or hurts you in some way your convinced it was a plot to hurt you.

This is a dangerous way to live. 99.9% of the people on this planet do not care about you, me, or any of the other multitudes that they do not know. There will be policies that are enacted that were done so usually for good reason that helped others but hurt me.

It happens you can't please everyone all the time. As has been said if you really feel that your seeing violations that your getting called out and others don't then you can like said do one of two things.

1) Leave the forums if you don't like what you perceive as unfairness and don't think it will change leaving would be healthier for you than whining.

2) Point it out bring attention to it.

Last I checked the mods do not get paid to monitor this particular forum nor in most forums. As such mods have day jobs, personal lives etc. If someone is repeatedly brought to their attention they will pay extra close attention to that person because it's efficient.

The solution to being singled out? Stop doing what you get singled out for.

Don't complain that the rules aren't fairly enforced in your perspective and instead follow the rules. If you don't like the rules, follow the rules and work towards being in a position where your one of the ones that makes the rules and then alter the rules.

It's simple. If you still don't get it watch the movie SLC Punk and pay close attention to Matthew Lilliard's speech at the end.

[Nyoibo]

No one has the right to be a dick.

My right to not be dicked around with transcends all legal and governmental rights. That's just how it is. Everyone else has that same right. Don't screw with people.

By definition, punishing me and not someone else for the same thing is screwing with me.

And actively trying to find a loophole or get around rules someone has set up isn't being a dick or screwing with them how?

[protege]

My right to not be dicked around with transcends all legal and governmental rights. That's just how it is. Everyone else has that same right. Don't screw with people.

On what planet? Maybe in your own mind...but unless you're putting up the cash for a 'board, nobody has any 'rights' here. Sure, you're allowed to post, but you can only do so on the whims of the 'board owner. Don't like it? There are plenty of other boards, or you could even *gasp* start your own.

By definition, punishing me and not someone else for the same thing is screwing with me.

How do you know that we're *not* punishing someone else? There's quite a bit of "behind the scenes" stuff, both here, and at CS. And no, we do not share what goes on with other members. Oh, and trust me...if we wanted to screw with you, we have ways of doing that too.

[Evandril]

Did it ever occur to some mods that not everyone has time to read through a long, drawn out TOS or forum rules post? No, of course not. They assume everyone wants to sit down and read it. Oh, wait, are youi saying it's my responsibility to read the TOS? Just like it's the mods responsibility to do their job and read the effing posts.

Remember - Ignorance is no excuse.

So the part you (normally) have to check stating you have read the TOS is something you're willing to lie about? I can promise you, if I was running a board, it would not be an optional thing, but required during registration. If you don't care what the rules are, or feel they would apply to you...Honestly, I'd not want you on any board I was running. *shrugs* That being said, if the rules aren't being applied equally, it's something that needs to be brought up to the mods.

Message boards are *not* equal playing fields, though, and if you can't follow the rules, no matter what they are, the people running it are justified in booting you. Another board I am on had a member who flat out stated he was not going to follow the rules...and was honestly shocked when the mods shrugged and banned him. If you get in trouble for something that another person 'got away with', ask them why, politely, and reference the other post...if it's a well run board, they will thank you for bringing the other post to their attention, and let the other person know they screwed up as well.

As far as cursing being good/bad/indifferent...IMO, they are words, and like any words, they have their uses...and are 'bad' when used improperly. The main 'use' for cursing is to let others know you are displeased about something, and how unhappy you are. If you're using them properly, they can be very effective...if not, they tend to reduce the respect you're being given by others.

[Rageaholic]

I'm confused, is the OP talking about this board or some other board?

[dendawg]

To those who say that swearing is the refuge of the unintelligent, I have this to say:

"Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits!"

Hopefully the "smart" ones here will get the reference. :P

[jackfaire]

Hopefully the "smart" ones here will get the reference. :P

I have no idea what your talking about George and you should feel very glad this isn't TV where you would get fined for that kind of dirty talk!!!

[DrFaroohk]

I believe I made my point. if it comes up that "i dont have time to read all the messages", it's a lame excuse. It's been made perfectly clear that it's NOT a valid excuse. therefore, no one gets to use it.

[Rapscallion]

I think it's worth asking at this point if you're talking about this board, CS, or some place I don't run. Which?

Rapscallion

[DrFaroohk]

Not any of yours Raps.

[Andara Bledin]

I believe I made my point. if it comes up that "i dont have time to read all the messages", it's a lame excuse. It's been made perfectly clear that it's NOT a valid excuse. therefore, no one gets to use it.

Let's see, you're comparing the reading of about a dozen posts that are static, unchanging and rarely have any additional comments made to the reading of, what, a couple of hundred posts, per day, and thinking that this is somehow equal?

The very thought is delusional, at best.

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[jackfaire]

It's been made perfectly clear that it's NOT a valid excuse. therefore, no one gets to use it.

Ooooooh I get it so you were saying that it takes you days even weeks to read the rules of a forum.

Yeah I misunderstood see me it takes less than 5 minutes so naturally I would consider it to be my responsibility to be an adult and make sure I am following the rules since it would take the moderators days to read every single post especially since new posts are made all of the time.

[Rapscallion]

The interesting part about forum rules is something I saw RK (I think) say some time ago, and Pedersen made some good observations as well.

I could go to most forums and not infringe upon the rules without even reading them. That's because I don't act like a shit. Decent and respectful behaviour is not a problem. I'm pretty sure I saw RK say this before. I have to agree. If I ever sign up on another forum then I'll skim the rules for anything unusual - where things go, anything not the same as other forums, that sort of gear.

The thing Pedersen noted is that while the CS.com rules are longer than some EULAs, they boil down to one thing - don't be a dick. Granted, you need to qualify where dickery starts and ends, but most forums are going to have the same sort of requirements from their members. Any forum with more than one section is going to have a very obvious places to put relevant posts.

Interesting thing, though - whenever I start to put aside time to try and trim down the CS.com rules, someone does something so incredibly ... unusual, nay special, that we have to add something because they claim the rules don't specifically forbid it. That's usually when we get complaints that the mods have been heavy-handed.

Rapscallion

[Ginger Tea]

Implying or even demanding that mods should read each and every post made to check for swearing or nefearious content that is against the TOS when the site has dozzens of posts in a short time frame means more man hours than are readily available on some sites.

And all this as an unpaid job?

Closest option would be to moderate EVERY user to check the post first, but that would bring some threads to a stand still as everyone is awaiting someone to get round to reading their post, yet they have 12 other people's to read first, then the replies to those that get aproved or edited and posted.

Some one has it as their sig on CS, the report button, it's not just for decoration.
If you see someone posting Ni&&er and it goes against the spirit or letter of the law regarding forum rules and it seems to go unpunished, well let a mod know via the forums report function, I'm guessing all powered by VBulletin have it and others like them.

[Andara Bledin]

I have yet to run into a forum that didn't have a report button, although one I visit prefers that people send email to mods@site.ext instead of using the button.

The proper response when spotting someone doing something wrong is not to figure that means it's ok for you to do the same something wrong.

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