Also this is a double standard. Women have to wear shirts or face public decency charges. (In before: That's just because of the sexualization of breasts!!) Look, in your home, backyard, or anywhere else where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy, then by all means go shirtless. Otherwise, a t-shirt or tank top isn't an unreasonable burden. And that includes going running and the gym.
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In school my friends and I used to describe it as a "community service". Which means you service the community by not making them look at your unsightly body.
It's not about right or wrong. It's that i know people don't want to look at my pail, flabby, extremely hairy back, chest, arms and man-titties. So I cover them up.
Same as if I was covered with horrible burn scars. It's not about my right to expose them. It's about courtesy for the other people who probably don't want to stare at my horribly disfigured body. They're trying to eat for crying out loud!
As I've also heard it put - certain clothes are a privilege, not a right.
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Originally posted by AdminAssistant View PostAlso this is a double standard. Women have to wear shirts or face public decency charges.
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More and more places are relaxing on the whole "OMG, boobs!" thing. There are quite a few places where women can legally walk around topless because if men can, then disallowing women is sexual discrimination. Because it is.
Originally posted by Boozy View PostIt doesn't matter either way. Having a six-pack of abs doesn't make standing around half-naked in public any classier.
Honestly, the whole, "OMG, skin!!!" reaction so many people have is depressing. Everybody has bought into the sexualization of the entire human body so fully that hardly anyone can go around less than fully dressed without someone pointing and going, "my lord, have they no shame?"
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Originally posted by Andara Bledin View PostMore and more places are relaxing on the whole "OMG, boobs!" thing. There are quite a few places where women can legally walk around topless because if men can, then disallowing women is sexual discrimination. Because it is.
As for men walking around shirtless, I wouldn't feel comfortable in public without a shirt, but that's just me.
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Be grateful that you didn't experience what a friend of mine in New Jersey did just yesterday. She went outside to have a smoke, and looked over in her neighbor's yard. to find her neighbor sunbathing NAKED.https://www.youtube.com/user/HedgeTV
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Originally posted by telecom_goddess View PostBe grateful that you didn't experience what a friend of mine in New Jersey did just yesterday. She went outside to have a smoke, and looked over in her neighbor's yard. to find her neighbor sunbathing NAKED.
Wait, since looking decent varies person to person, does this thread justify me saying I don't think ugly or fat people should be allowed outside? Not everyone likes that so maybe they, along with shirtless guys should stay inside. Fairs fair. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people should suffer because of it.Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers
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I dunno, man, I can't say too much. In the summer when we're out in the yard, we tend to wear as few clothes as possible. While my husband never goes outside shirtless, a lot of my friends do, and a lot of the women I know (myself included) will work outside in sports bras.
It gets over a hunnert degrees here, with fifty+ humidity. We're just trying to stay alive over here.
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Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View PostI dunno, man, I can't say too much. In the summer when we're out in the yard, we tend to wear as few clothes as possible. While my husband never goes outside shirtless, a lot of my friends do, and a lot of the women I know (myself included) will work outside in sports bras.
Last year or so, I spent a weekend with four friends who lived together as roommates - three guys, one girl. Since it was summer, and they were at home, all three guys ran around without shirts at some point during my stay. The girl, unfortunately, didn't, despite my best efforts to convince her...
It was at that point that I concluded: it's always the wrong people who take off their shirts. Always; I've been proven right multiple times since then.
Anyway, in order to actually write something on topic: I think that, in their own yard or back yard, it's okay to ditch the shirt. Maybe not particularly smart, when dealing with open flames, but that's a different matter."You are who you are on your worst day, Durkon. Anything less is a comforting lie you tell yourself to numb the pain." - Evil
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i could get it if it was a public place, but a persons home isnt public. looking in another person's yard poses some risk of seeing something you dont want to, be it shirtless guys, a dog humping the lawngnomes, or the creepy kid burying a body. dont wanna risk it, dont look lol.All uses of You, You're, and etc are generic unless specified otherwise.
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Originally posted by SuperNat View PostI detest seeing guys in shopping centres, supermarkets etc shirtless. However, in their own yard? Go for it. I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with a guy going shirtless. He's not naked, he has his shirt off. Jeebuz.
But like you said, some places are not OK to go shirtless, regardless of gender. There was this one guy who used to be a semi-regular at this one bar I used to go to, and apparently he thought he was God's gift to women and kept trying to take his shirt off. He seemed highly offended when the bartender told him to keep his shirt on.--- I want the republicans out of my bedroom, the democrats out of my wallet, and both out of my first and second amendment rights. Whether you are part of the anal-retentive overly politically-correct left, or the bible-thumping bellowing right, get out of the thought control business --- Alan Nathan
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Originally posted by MadMike View PostAgreed. While I think it's a ridiculous double-standard that men can go topless and women can not, I don't see what the big deal is.
But like you said, some places are not OK to go shirtless, regardless of gender. There was this one guy who used to be a semi-regular at this one bar I used to go to, and apparently he thought he was God's gift to women and kept trying to take his shirt off. He seemed highly offended when the bartender told him to keep his shirt on.
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In all seriousness, a guy shirtless in his own yard is not a big deal. When I go out in my own yard, I don't dress to be presentable. I dress according to what I'm out there to do. If it's summer, it's most likely a tank top and a pair of shorts. I am not above wearing a pair of men's boxer briefs under a tshirt to mow the lawn in. Like I said, the weather here is sometimes such that it's a wonder the entire state doesn't just resort to being nudists during July and August. South Carolina is hot to begin with, and the particular town I live in is smack dab in the middle of a geographical feature that turns the region into a steamy pressure cooker.
I don't see it out on malls or stores or whatnot, but a shirtless man in his own yard is not something I even blink at, I don't care how bad or good he looks. I see shirtless joggers in all levels of fitness all the time, I don't care. If he's running in a hundred degree heat, he'd be nuts to put on a shirt. It's just too hot and steamy here. Even a light tshirt is too much some days.
Now, as for guys doing the gratuitous shirt removal thing because they are trying to show off, they fail to realize three things:
1. Women are not like men.
2. We all see right through their sad little attempt at exhibitionism.
3. They don't look anywhere near as good as they think they do.
Understand that #3 has nothing to do with how good they do or don't look and everything to do with how they think they look.
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