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    An ignorant comment a "car guy" made....

    As you can tell by my screen name, I'm big into cars.

    You may have heard the term "resto-mod." For the non-car people, a resto-mod is when someone restores a classic car and modifies it with a modern engine, suspension and other new parts to made it more drivable, and also much safer.

    There is a company called YearOne that goes one step futher: they make officially licensed, replica "factory correct" parts which includes complete body shells. Say you want a '70 Chevelle? You can call YearOne and pretty much order all the parts needed to make a BRAND NEW '70 Chevelle, with no worries about having to deal with an old body and things like rust etc.

    Well I was looking at one of those classic car forums and someone mentioned doing just that. Complete with a modern engine, transmission, suspension and everything. Well one guy didn't take to well to that, writing:

    "Only someone who can't hack it would build a f*cking kit car. Instead of actually taking the time to restore a real Chevelle, you decide to have some stupid shop build you a damn kit car that is an imitation of a Chevelle. You're an insult to the people who take years to restore a real car. You know what, if you enter a classic car show I hope you never take home a single award. If it were up to me, I would kick your ass and your kit car right out of the show! And don't get me started on a modern drivetrain, get a f*cking Corvette Z06 if you want modern handling. Have fun with your custom shop putting together your kit car, you lazy f*ck."

    This guy was so ignorant it wasn't even funny. First off, this a-hole needs to know what "officially licensed" means. It means General Motors themselves gave their blessing to YearOne to make these parts. They're not some two-bit company making poorly fitting crap out of China. It's designed to have the look and feel of OEM parts from the manufacturer with none of the headaches of trying to deal with over 40 year old hardware. Finally, if the man who built the car puts his "new" Chevelle next to a regular Chevelle, I would make a safe bet that no one would tell the difference between the two.
    Last edited by HEMI6point1; 12-31-2011, 09:06 PM.
    AKA sld72382 on customerssuck.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
    There is a company called YearOne that goes one step futher: they make officially licensed, replica "factory correct" parts which includes complete body shells.
    does this mean I might finally be able to get my dream car?*

    *76 El Camino SS
    Registered rider scenic shore 150 charity ride

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    • #3
      That looks like a '71 or 72 El Camino. Nice color too. I just checked and while they offer replica parts for the car, no body shell for El Caminos yet.
      AKA sld72382 on customerssuck.

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      • #4
        What are these cars legally? I mean, what would it be registered and insured as, if such is allowed?
        "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
          What are these cars legally? I mean, what would it be registered and insured as, if such is allowed?
          Because YearOne classifies the body shells etc as "OEM replacement" parts a fully assembled car from their catalog can be registered as any other classic car which means you can fully insure such a vehicle through a company like Hagerty without issue.
          AKA sld72382 on customerssuck.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
            Because YearOne classifies the body shells etc as "OEM replacement" parts a fully assembled car from their catalog can be registered as any other classic car which means you can fully insure such a vehicle through a company like Hagerty without issue.
            Sorry but that's just plain wrong. At minimum it should be classified as a replica, as IMHO, that's precisely what it is. It could MAYBE be classified as a classic if it actually used NOS* parts, but they're not, correct? As far as I can tell from your posts, they're just newly produced parts, are they not?

            The gist: IMHO it's only classic if it's assembled from original parts, not newly manufactured.

            * New Old Stock

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            • #7
              Correct, all of YO's parts are brand new.
              AKA sld72382 on customerssuck.

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              • #8
                YO isn't the only company that does this--I could very easily build a "new" 1962-80 MGB or B GT, since nearly everything is available. Also available, are MG Midget shells. When the factory closed in '80, the body dies were carefully saved, and eventually put back into production under British Motor Heritage. Not only are the shells built on the original dies, but you can get galvanized construction, and even have them beefed-up for racing. These shells are really for giving a car--that's too far gone to save--new life.

                Even though I own a '70, the idea of putting together an MG built to my own tastes...appeals quite a bit! But, considering that I could run into snags upon registration, the easiest way around that...would be to find a scrap car, and transfer the chassis numbers to the new shell.

                However, the car would never have the 'heritage' of an original.

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                • #9
                  A car snob. Lovely. Boy will he be pissed when I get my Shelby Cobra...that's a kit. Sorry, but it's expensive as shit to find an old one and even more so if it needs work. Or I could just get a kit, have it put together and still have a Shelby Cobra with newer parts and less miles.
                  Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                  • #10
                    I would do what the guy I mentioned would do. Have a shop build me a YO '70 Chevelle but with an Edelbrock-Musi 555 EFI crate motor, a TCI 6-speed auto with paddle shifters and a Hotchkis suspension. Purists would hate me, but whatever. At 723hp (Rated HP for the 555 EFI), they would only see my taillights anyway LOL....
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                    • #11
                      My Ghostbusters forum gets the same thing. There are members who build their own props from the ground up, using authentic cosmetic parts (since a lot of those are no longer produced or the company has gone under, that can get into $$$$ in a hurry...$20 for a resistor?!). The majority of us are happy with resin castings and just paint them up as good as we can...cheaper, lighter weight and if something gets damaged it's not as catastrophic (for the price of one real part you could get 3-4 castings). A few buy pre-built props/kits off other members or actually commission them; this can be more expensive in the long run, but it's seen as an acceptable trade-off for lack of technical skill or time.

                      The argument is the same. You're not a "real fan" unless you've built everything from scratch, as screen-accurate as humanly possible. While I would love to be able to pour my own fiberglass pack shell (yes, I could probably make my money back and then some), it's just not happening anytime soon.
                      "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                      • #12
                        Dude with that company I could totally get a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56
                        '57, '58, 59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67
                        '68, '69, '70 Cadillac
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                          Dude with that company I could totally get a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56
                          '57, '58, 59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67
                          '68, '69, '70 Cadillac


                          I was really wondering, though, about registration. If you build a whole car this way, as opposed to having anything left of an old one to start from, what, if anything, would it have the serial number of? What would it legally be?
                          "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                            Dude with that company I could totally get a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56
                            '57, '58, 59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67
                            '68, '69, '70 Cadillac

                            That was one of the funniest things I've read on this forum in ages.
                            "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                            ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                              Dude with that company I could totally get a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56
                              '57, '58, 59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67
                              '68, '69, '70 Cadillac
                              But would you have to get it all at once and pay with plastic, or would you have the Cash to get it One Piece At A Time?

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