People who think that their stupid car race is more important

[fireheart17]

OK, this involves a small bit of explaining.

Throughout March, we have two things going on, sometimes simultaneously:

-Clipsal 500 (Car Race)
-Adelaide Festival or Fringe Festival plus Womadelaide (World Music Festival)

Womadelaide runs every year, Adelaide Festival and Fringe Festival alternate years. (I have no idea what's different) The Clipsal also runs every year and blocks off a few streets around the city so the race can run. It's not a F1 race, it's a V8 race. The various music festivals (there are a few more but I can't think of them right now) usually take up the parklands around the city and don't block off traffic.

Well, this year, there were a few scheduling stuff-ups: more due to a communication breakdown between the Clipsal organisers and the Festival Organisers. Womadelaide, Enrico Morricone (?) and others all wound up being affected.

So predictably, the festival organisers are calling for the Clipsal to be shifted to another month of the year. Let the shitstorm commence!

A general list of comments include:

-"Clipsal was here first, why should they be forced to move?" (So were the Indigenous population, yet they're often told to politely leave somewhere because they're drinking/smoking/doing something else that normally the cops turn a blind eye to)
-"The snobs can wait another month I'm sure of it" (Yes...because supposedly it's impossible to both like music or the theatre and also like a car race...idiot)
-"Clipsal gets <x> more than the festival (in terms of either attendance or money), the festival should be forced to move!" (Because somehow, shifting it to another month of the year will result in ticket sales dropping...they tend to book the events for the festival at least a year ahead)
-"Clipsal should be forced to move, everyone just gets drunk, abusive and it's not exactly family-friendly when your 4-year-old child watches two adults get into a fistfight" (or something along those lines: one of the few comments I DO agree with)

What do you all think?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/entert...-1226303158488

[drunkenwildmage]

One of your arguments is that the Acts are booked a year ahead of time for the music feast.. Well, in racing, the contracts are also booked, normally about a year a head of time, and in depending on the sanctioning body , they will sign multiyear contacts for the event to fall on a certain weekend. . Now, changing a race date isn't a simple as throwing a dart on a calendar, and say.. ok.. we are going to move the race from March to October. Most Touring Series compete with a tight schedule that seldomly changes from year to year. If you move 1 race date, you have to see how it's going to affect the other race dates of the schedule, it could very well could cause them to have to move other ones around to. If you get 2 or more organizers willing to move their events, then something can be worked out, and it's not the big of a deal, but if it's just once event wanted to move, then they are basically SOL> .. Ultimilty what it comes down to is money.. which event is the bigger draw, and which event makes more money.

[HYHYBT]

More generally, it depends both on which of the conflicting events is more difficult to move, and whether they're, not equally important, but both important *enough* that moving one of them is better than canceling it entirely.

Still, though, we're more than halfway through March *now*. Isn't it a bit late to be scheduling major events for the current month?

(Breathing is immeasurably more important than retrieving my keys from the bottom of the swimming pool. But I can postpone the breathing for a little while, and unless I do, I'll never get my keys back.)

[Nyoibo]

Bollocks the Clipsal 500's been around longer.

The Fringe used to be every second year but it runs every year now and yes, the organisers really screwed the pooch this year, the Fringe, Womad, Clipsal and the Festival of arts all on in the same month, I have quite a few friends performing, one of the best arguements I've heard for spacing them all out over a longer period is accomodation, it is impossible to get accomodation of any kind during March and shows have been cancelled because the artists can't get a place to stay, people don't come to see events because there's no parking or from interstate because there's nowhere to stay, if they spaced out the events I could pretty much garantee that they'd see attendance for every event increase.

[draco664]

The Clipsal is the opening round of the V8 championship, right?

Moving it might be a touch problematic, methinks. If it has to remain the first round, the entire season might need to be shifted.

Anyway, look at 1, how hard it is to move each (considering existing contracts, cost, tourism and so forth) and 2, what impact moving would have on each.

As someone who can't stand motor sport, my opinion would probably be too biased to bother with. But whoever did the scheduling this year needs to be bitch-slapped and told to do better.