People bitching about Radiation in Japan

[kaycivine]

Yes. Its horrible

In Fukushima.

But I went to Japan mere MONTHS after the incident. To Kyusyu. No radiation scare there (well, one, but that was taken care of FAST)

Now I'm going back, people are bitching all over again.
And calling me stupid.

Fuck that noise, its my choice. I'll be far away from it again as well.
So back the fuck off.

And No, A, you can't come with me. (For those who have seen my CS Off topic posts)

[Ginger Tea]

I forgot there even was a nuclear incident due to the tsunami (hell I had to think what caused it to boot and im not 1000% sure there even)

I'm more of an out of sight out of mind guy though.

[SongsOfDragons]

They're still bitching? I thought all that tailed off around last Christmas...

I was doing random research into this scary stuff I'd discovered the existence of - Corium, basically molten reactor - and while I hadn't found much I found a forum discussing whether Fukushima had produced any corium and where it had gone. The last post was just after December 2011.

[kaycivine]

People are giving me a hard time

Trying to tell me not to go

And calling me names and shit

Its driving me crazy

[HYHYBT]

"Corium" doesn't go anywhere. It was once thought that it could burn unstoppably down to the mantle, but that turned out not to be true.

I forgot there even was a nuclear incident due to the tsunami (hell I had to think what caused it to boot and im not 1000% sure there even)

The underlying cause was an earthquake; whether it did all the damage to the nuclear plant directly or whether some of it was from the resulting tsunami, I cannot recall offhand. But either way, the nuclear part only matters now if you're going to the plant... which almost certainly isn't allowed anyway.

Now, I can think of *other* reasons not to go to Japan, but most of that is personal preference and lack of money for a plane ticket

[bara]

Clearly the Earthquake, Tsunami, and Radiation Leak are results of the latest Godzilla attack. Gee folks, don't you watch movies?

[Ginger Tea]

no a butter fly farted underwater, see its just like the tornado one

[Andara Bledin]

no a butter fly farted underwater, see its just like the tornado one

A sea butterfly.

Sheesh. Get it right.



^-.-^

[BlaqueKatt]

I was doing random research into this scary stuff I'd discovered the existence of - Corium, basically molten reactor - and while I hadn't found much I found a forum discussing whether Fukushima had produced any corium and where it had gone.

it didn't, they corroded the core with saltwater to stop the reaction.

NPR, has some of the story

the rest can be found here, a total meltdown was avoided because a single man-Masao Yoshida, disobeyed his superiors, and his workers respected him enough to go along with the disobedience.

[SongsOfDragons]

*nodnod to BlaqueKatt and HYHYBT* I did figure those. The forum was amusingly full of well-written but completely wrong scenarios/scenarios with no evidence. And I watched a programme on YouTube called 'Inside Chernobyl' which I think has been taken off now that showed this thing called the 'Elephant's Foot' - a huge two-tonne lump of corium that had solidified on the floor a few stories or so beneath the reactor. China Syndrome I think not

I have a morbid fascination with radioactive things. ^^

[lordlundar]

A lot of the paranoia stems from the only source of knowledge about a nuclear plant meltdown is Chernobyl which caused a radioactive cloud covering several thousand square kilometres in central Europe that is still having an effect there.

The problem with that logic is that this reactor was a much different one and the disaster and response to it was much different. The disasters aren't even comparable so it's a fallacious perspective but people hear "meltdown" and they think Chernobyl. In much the same way people hear "meltdown" and think explosion.

[BlaqueKatt]

The problem with that logic is that this reactor was a much different one and the disaster and response to it was much different.

Yup built in a WAREHOUSE, with no real safety features, and as an aside, Chernobyl was still in operation until a few years ago. One reactor went bad, the others were still fine and useable.

[draco664]

Yup built in a WAREHOUSE, with no real safety features, and as an aside, Chernobyl was still in operation until a few years ago. One reactor went bad, the others were still fine and useable.

There was a documentary on Chernobyl I saw that showed one thing that's come out of the accident there was the fact that studies on local animal populations shows something completely paradoxical.

Some species of animals born post-incident (ie, not exposed to the initial surge of radiation) and exposed to the high(er) background radiation have fewer instances of cancer. (Minks in particular, if I recall correctly)

It's weird, and completely unexpected, but there's a theory that some organisms that experience slightly higher levels of background radiation (not spiking levels, but just a higher, constant level) have genes that kick in that prevent cancer. Once you go over a certain amount of radiation, cancer rates rise, but the results of the studies suggest that even doubling the normal background radiation level would reduce cancer rates by a couple of percentage points.

[kaycivine]

After another earthquake happening today and a smaller tsunami..(like...2.2 meters)
I imagine more stupid things will be said, even though no fatalities have yet been reported

[lordlundar]

There was a documentary on Chernobyl I saw that showed one thing that's come out of the accident there was the fact that studies on local animal populations shows something completely paradoxical.

Some species of animals born post-incident (ie, not exposed to the initial surge of radiation) and exposed to the high(er) background radiation have fewer instances of cancer. (Minks in particular, if I recall correctly)

It's weird, and completely unexpected, but there's a theory that some organisms that experience slightly higher levels of background radiation (not spiking levels, but just a higher, constant level) have genes that kick in that prevent cancer. Once you go over a certain amount of radiation, cancer rates rise, but the results of the studies suggest that even doubling the normal background radiation level would reduce cancer rates by a couple of percentage points.

Not nearly as unexpected as you think. The animals essentially received radiation therapy.