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  • It's "A". . ."A!" Not "AN!"

    I can't stand it when the media morons stubbornly insist on saying "an historic" instead of the proper "a historic," no matter how many times it's pointed out to them that they're using improper grammar. The first letter of the word "historic" is pronounced with a hard H sound, it's not silent. So you have no damned excuse. Say it correctly! You most likely have a degree in English and/or Journalism, don't you? You did graduate, right? So put your knowledge to good use! You're setting a bad example for the public!

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    http://www.sharbean.ca/main/template.php?EntryID=719

    For starters. To summarize: Both versions can be correct.

    Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...sh_differences

    Again, both versions can be correct.

    Personal preference is that when I'm speaking, I will use "an historic", since "a historic" just doesn't flow right for me. And no, I'm not British.

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    • #3
      I was taught to use "a" before a hard consonant and "an" before a vowel or soft consonant.

      A historic
      An herb
      A log

      If it actually sounds like a vowel, "an" goes in front.
      If it doesn't sound like a vowel, "a" goes in front.
      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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      • #4
        I agree totally, GD... but there are ppl who will say "an 'istoric"... so to them it fits.

        Also to them - learn to pronounce your H's!
        ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

        SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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        • #5
          Brits and Canadians (as far as I know) are unlikely to pronounce the "H" at all in words like "historic" and "herb". I have always used "an" preceding these words.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Boozy View Post
            Brits and Canadians (as far as I know) are unlikely to pronounce the "H" at all in words like "historic" and "herb".
            http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9IzDbNFDdP4 about fifty seconds in.

            Rapscallion
            Proud to be a W.A.N.K.E.R. - Womanless And No Kids - Exciting Rubbing!
            Reclaiming words is fun!

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            • #7
              Hey?????


              ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

              SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
                The encore is my favorite part of Dress to Kill.

                Now, in the Cockney dialect all h's are dropped ('enry 'iggins), but I have a sneaking suspicion there aren't too many people walking around London talking like that.

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                • #9
                  http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/anhistoric.html

                  Taken from the book, Common Errors in English.

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                  • #10
                    0k, you Brits (at least those who speak Cockney), Aussies and Canadians are off the hook. Also those who speak American English and drop the H, although I still think it's wrong. I never wanted to sound like an English Nazi (is that an oxymoron?).

                    As far as "herb," I was always taught that the H is silent. Like the L in "salmon." *Running from newly opened can of worms*
                    Last edited by Antipsych; 11-04-2008, 08:19 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I tend to subvocalize the "h" in "historic", so when I speak it is more fluid for me to say "an historic" than it is for me to say "a historic", and as the entire purpose of having those two words for the same exact thing is so that I don't have to stop in the middle of a sentence after swallowing my tongue, "an historic" is a perfectly valid grammatical construction.

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