No one would even ask these questions if they had to live next door to my neighbors.
Here's the way I look at it: Noise is noise. It doesn't matter who's doing it - ear-piercing shrieks will still give me a headache. 50 kids running around the churchyard sounds like a riot, and makes it impossible for me to enjoy peace and quiet on my own front porch. Don't I have the same right to that peace & quiet that anyone else has? Especially when those kids could be driven to a nearby park where they can run around & scream all they like, without disturbing the entire neighborhood?
When I was a kid, my parents taught me and my siblings not to scream or throw tantrums because other people would be bothered by that. That's called consideration for others. It didn't warp us or make us crazy to learn that the world didn't revolve around us.
I do understand that babies cry when they need something; and little kids cry when they're scared, and get fussy when they're bored. If the parents actually make an effort to calm them and give them what they need, I'm fine with that. It's the idiots who ignore their kids' meltdowns that I can't stand. If I screamed at them, I'd be considered rude. So why would it not be rude for them to let their kids scream? And unfortunately, because the majority of kids I see out in public are behaving badly, I tend to look at all kids with a jaundiced eye and steer clear of them.
I would LOVE a mall or restaurant that didn't allow kids. There will always be places that allow kids to be there, in fact the majority of stores, restaurants, theaters, you name it, allow them, so what's so terrible about a place that caters to adults only? (And I'm not referring to X-rated movies or adult "toystores").
And yes, I agree that people should also control their pets. If I recall correctly, the thread about the dog and the girl who wanted to fish did not state that the dog was bugging the girl - I don't think she even got out of the car, she just saw the dog and wanted to leave. But she may have had bad experiences in the past with dogs, I don't know.
Here's the way I look at it: Noise is noise. It doesn't matter who's doing it - ear-piercing shrieks will still give me a headache. 50 kids running around the churchyard sounds like a riot, and makes it impossible for me to enjoy peace and quiet on my own front porch. Don't I have the same right to that peace & quiet that anyone else has? Especially when those kids could be driven to a nearby park where they can run around & scream all they like, without disturbing the entire neighborhood?
When I was a kid, my parents taught me and my siblings not to scream or throw tantrums because other people would be bothered by that. That's called consideration for others. It didn't warp us or make us crazy to learn that the world didn't revolve around us.
I do understand that babies cry when they need something; and little kids cry when they're scared, and get fussy when they're bored. If the parents actually make an effort to calm them and give them what they need, I'm fine with that. It's the idiots who ignore their kids' meltdowns that I can't stand. If I screamed at them, I'd be considered rude. So why would it not be rude for them to let their kids scream? And unfortunately, because the majority of kids I see out in public are behaving badly, I tend to look at all kids with a jaundiced eye and steer clear of them.
I would LOVE a mall or restaurant that didn't allow kids. There will always be places that allow kids to be there, in fact the majority of stores, restaurants, theaters, you name it, allow them, so what's so terrible about a place that caters to adults only? (And I'm not referring to X-rated movies or adult "toystores").
And yes, I agree that people should also control their pets. If I recall correctly, the thread about the dog and the girl who wanted to fish did not state that the dog was bugging the girl - I don't think she even got out of the car, she just saw the dog and wanted to leave. But she may have had bad experiences in the past with dogs, I don't know.
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