Since it's headed here anyway might as well ask.
Does this apply in the classroom?
Or, more pointedly, does this mean that teachers cannot ban topics, give out bad grades, or tell students to "change the topic" if the student says "freedom of speech" ... ?
I say, the teachers still have the rights - somewhat.
Bad grades
Too fucking bad. Stop whining!
If the teacher gives you bad marks for spelling, grammar, or being wrong then suck it up and learn. That's what you're in school for.
Banned topics
Yes and no. That depends on what the class is over. However, I have to disagree with banning them out of boredom. Children often get the same ideas as previous grades. It's somewhat normal to me that they would think the same things or turn in the same ideas on a paper.
And I'm somewhat reminded of what one of my professors once said in a poetry class. When he was in school, he once heard someone say "Well you can't write a poem say... about fried sneakers!" So one of his classmates wrote a poem about fried sneakers."
In fact I'm somewhat against banning topics altogether. I know there are probably some that should be banned - but equally so there will always be someone who argues for it. (this site itself is perhaps a good example of that with the different viewpoints here).
So for now, banned topics... I personally just say, keep it in the same topic your class is over. So you aren't going to submit a paper on the religious practices of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster when the class assignment is for a book report. Unless of course you've managed to find a book about the FSM and your report is on that book. Keep it on subject's all I'm saying.
Telling students to drop an argument
Allowed. Just because you're being paid by taxes - and tuition - does NOT mean you are obliged to listen to every kid who wants to spout off and claim "freedom of speech".
Hell over at CS we have that lovely video about a girl whining that the cop didn't want to talk to her while he was writing a ticket. here - a few replies down
Government employee does NOT mean government representative. Nor does it create in the employee an obligation to listen.
These students who whine about "freedom of speech" forget this part. Nowhere does it say anyone has to fucking listen to them.
and in my opinion that's what some students are trying to do with that one - forcing others to listen against their will. And of course causing a disturbance.
I mean especially in college. It might be government-owned but fuck it i have to PAY to be there. Why the fuck should I pay to say... take a class in web design, only to be forced to listen to another student trying to start an argument about political views?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Or, more pointedly, does this mean that teachers cannot ban topics, give out bad grades, or tell students to "change the topic" if the student says "freedom of speech" ... ?
I say, the teachers still have the rights - somewhat.
Bad grades
Too fucking bad. Stop whining!
If the teacher gives you bad marks for spelling, grammar, or being wrong then suck it up and learn. That's what you're in school for.
Banned topics
Yes and no. That depends on what the class is over. However, I have to disagree with banning them out of boredom. Children often get the same ideas as previous grades. It's somewhat normal to me that they would think the same things or turn in the same ideas on a paper.
And I'm somewhat reminded of what one of my professors once said in a poetry class. When he was in school, he once heard someone say "Well you can't write a poem say... about fried sneakers!" So one of his classmates wrote a poem about fried sneakers."
In fact I'm somewhat against banning topics altogether. I know there are probably some that should be banned - but equally so there will always be someone who argues for it. (this site itself is perhaps a good example of that with the different viewpoints here).
So for now, banned topics... I personally just say, keep it in the same topic your class is over. So you aren't going to submit a paper on the religious practices of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster when the class assignment is for a book report. Unless of course you've managed to find a book about the FSM and your report is on that book. Keep it on subject's all I'm saying.
Telling students to drop an argument
Allowed. Just because you're being paid by taxes - and tuition - does NOT mean you are obliged to listen to every kid who wants to spout off and claim "freedom of speech".
Hell over at CS we have that lovely video about a girl whining that the cop didn't want to talk to her while he was writing a ticket. here - a few replies down
Government employee does NOT mean government representative. Nor does it create in the employee an obligation to listen.
These students who whine about "freedom of speech" forget this part. Nowhere does it say anyone has to fucking listen to them.
and in my opinion that's what some students are trying to do with that one - forcing others to listen against their will. And of course causing a disturbance.
I mean especially in college. It might be government-owned but fuck it i have to PAY to be there. Why the fuck should I pay to say... take a class in web design, only to be forced to listen to another student trying to start an argument about political views?
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