Wow. Since I was pretty much called an idiot, I guess I'm done with this post. Or any other post. Ever.
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Guns are a Disease?
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I'm one for gun control, but this is definitely filled with a lot of reaching, coincidental arguments.
The tie between alcohol and gun violence is no different than alcohol and any violence of any kind. Hell, any drug for that matter. When the mind isn't right and things get heated or emotional, there's no telling how a person could react.
Calling gun ownership a precursor to gun violence is like calling car ownership a precursor to a DUI. It's damn near difficult for me to get a DUI if I don't have a car.
I will agree with this part though:
"There's sort of a contagion phenomenon" after a shooting, where people feel they need to have a gun for protection or retaliation, he said.
There is an ever growing mentality of how cool it is to own guns and particular types of guns though. I have friends all the time that post pictures of their rifles and handguns on their bed bragging about going to "blow shit up" at the outdoor ranges. Here in Vegas, it's quickly becoming a status thing.Some People Are Alive Only Because It's Illegal To Kill Them.
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Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostGun ownership – a precursor to gun violence – can spread "much like an infectious disease circulates,"
Its much more comprehensive and pragmatic then your alarmist headline indicates. It sounds like you took one sentence and ran with it, without reading anything around it or the justification for it.
Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostThey said the study also shows gun owners are more likely to be binge drinkers and drink and drive.
Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostI don't agree with any of this.
Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostMany people are normal, careful, responsible gun owners.
Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostAnd I know that the gun is not going to turn around on its own and kill someone, which is why I was particular about the one I chose; a Taurus, which includes a key lock that prevents the gun from firing even when cocked and loaded.
Originally posted by Lillfilly View PostI wonder if they believe that only mental degenerates will get guns, or that owning a gun will somehow transform you.
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Some of the statements in the report are laughably stupid.
Gee, a gun being present is a requirement for gun violence to happen? Really?
However, other parts of the report are much more useful with things like pressuring for things such as biometric locks (not necessarily a good idea) and improved safety to prevent accidental firings such as from a gun being dropped (a very, very good idea).
The problem here is that some of the report and subsequent article confuse correlation for causation or are otherwise unclear about the difference. Add in some problems with treating a major symptom as if it were actually the disease, and you have a recipe for none of the report being taken seriously by the moderates on either side of the issue.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Postimproved safety to prevent accidental firings such as from a gun being dropped (a very, very good idea).
that only happens in movies....
big enough myth it made cracked
Originally posted by crackedmodern firearms do not fire when dropped just a little bit. See, the gun industry is the same as pretty much any other industry. If their products kill people when they aren't supposed to be killing people, the government gets real pissed off and their stock tends to plummet. Which is why the Gun Control Act of 1968 made drop-safety tests mandatory. If anything, the Hollywood-concocted myth about guns firing on impact inspires us to be even dumber with guns. If you drop a gun, your first instinct will be to try to catch it before it hits the ground, because movies taught you that gun + ground = death. In real life, however, grasping for falling objects is an inherently imprecise act, and you run the risk of accidentally catching the trigger while you fumble around like an idiot trying to catch it. Which is why experts agree: It's much safer to let a gun fall than to try and catch it.Last edited by BlaqueKatt; 08-17-2012, 12:03 AM.
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Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View PostSome People Are Alive Only Because It's Illegal To Kill Them.
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Originally posted by crashhelmet View PostThat's how NFL Receiver Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg with his gun. It was improperly stuffed into his pants and started to slip while going up stairs. He grabbed for it and pulled the trigger.
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