"You can't truly love animals unless you go vegan."

[Aethian]

Give into it. XD

And bara; consider the plight of the poor apple tree. "My babies!" it screams, in a voice that can't be heard by human ears, as its children are brutally torn from its loving embrace, to be devoured by unthinking humans. Berefit of its children, the apple tree is left to weep in the field next to other mothers who have suffered a similar fate.

While I see the humor in this...and I did giggle. Apple trees, plum trees, pear trees, and the like NEED their fruits to be eaten so that their seeds can be spread about.

[Andara Bledin]

My favorite were always the anti-fur nuts who were sporting leather.

^-.-^

[Mytical]

Heh, don't know how legitimate it is..or who did the research, but I've heard that it is now thought that plants transmit sense of pain to other plants. If this is true..wonder what vegans and Vegetarians are going to think about that?

[Rapscallion]

That was research done in the seventies and it was considered unfounded then. If it's been researched since, I'd like to see some evidence of it.

Rapscallion

[Nyoibo]

Oh god I hate PETA.

Eating meat does not put me in the same league as an animal killer. To do that I'd have to actually kill an animal which I haven't. But since extremists see things in black and white, this simple fact never dawns on them.

See, I don't completely agree with this, if you eat meat you are directly responsible for the death of an animal, ok you didn't cut its throat (yes, that's how they're killed) but you're still resbonsible for it being killed, you either acept it or don't eat meat.

[Lace Neil Singer]

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then why do they taste so good? XD

Also, Mythbusters proved to some extent that plants can feel pain; they hooked a plant up to a machine and tortured it. Also; link to a German study, where they concluded that plants have a nervous system of sorts.

http://ds9.botanik.uni-bonn.de/zellb.../neuroview.php

[crashhelmet]

See, I don't completely agree with this, if you eat meat you are directly responsible for the death of an animal, ok you didn't cut its throat (yes, that's how they're killed) but you're still resbonsible for it being killed, you either acept it or don't eat meat.

Indirect responsibility, maybe, but not direct responsibility.

That animal is killed whether or not I eat it, I feed it to my dogs, I throw it away, or if the butcher throws it away because no one bought it.

That animal is killed so that its other parts can be sold off to other manufacturers to make clothing, soap, toothpaste, makeup or whatever else they can make out of it.

[Nekojin]

Ultimately, our system is set up that life must consume life in order to keep living. Drawing a distinction between animal and plant matter seems a little silly, from where I sit. No matter how you slice it, you're denying some other life form the ability to live in order for you to continue functioning. It doesn't really matter whether you're eating a fruit, an egg, a potato, or a cornish game hen - a life was either damaged, ended, or prevented in the process.

Such is the Circle of Life, eh?

[Andara Bledin]

Glue. A bunch of different animal byproducts go into glue.

Like what they use to hold fine cabinets together. Or as a treatment agent for canvases to be used for oil paintings.

And for the people who eat fish but not other meats, there is a type of culinary "glue" that is partly procured from animal blood used to hold things together, such as imitation crab meat and fish balls. Turns out that some fishy goodness isn't nearly as non-mammalian as the label would lead one to believe.

And that doesn't even get into gelatin, such as dessert gelatin, capsule coatings, and marshmallows...

^-.-^

[telecom_goddess]

*sigh* I get really tired of the militant vegetarian view on things. It's all part of the food chain. We eat animals, who eat other animals, who eat other animals who eat bugs.

I like vegetarian meals but I also like my meat. We're supposed to eat everything.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Also, doesn't the leader of PETA use insulin that was tested on animals?

[Nyoibo]

Also, doesn't the leader of PETA use insulin that was tested on animals?

Nope, she uses insulin which is derived from animals, specifically bovine insulin.

[BlaqueKatt]

Nope, she uses insulin which is derived from animals, specifically bovine insulin.

even though there is a fully synthetic version available, which would require her to test more often.

[Lace Neil Singer]

That's even more hypocritical than I thought. -.- Burn the witch!

[fireheart17]

Burn the witch!

Do you want to bet that she weighs more than a duck?