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  • #46
    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    You didn't watch the video, did you?
    Im thinking they mean, when she ran into the ER there was no where else to go. ER's have open waiting rooms, but thats about it. You cant go waltzing back into the treatment areas. Most are locked up and need a badge or someone to buzz you in. Why they couldnt have followed her in and talked to her, is beyond me.

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    • #47
      Well, I suspect that just running in and talking to her like human beings would have probably wilted the chubbies they probably had going on at the prospect of beating up a terrified pregnant women.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
        Well, I suspect that just running in and talking to her like human beings would have probably wilted the chubbies they probably had going on at the prospect of beating up a terrified pregnant women.
        Or because she presented a threat to the public and it is their job to protect the public.
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        • #49
          I notice you aren't much into answering why another method of confronting her other than tackling her would not have sufficed.

          It IS their job to protect the public. This woman was public. They failed.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
            I notice you aren't much into answering why another method of confronting her other than tackling her would not have sufficed.
            1. Because they didn't know if she was armed
            2. Because they didn't have agood idea of her state of mind
            3. Because she could have been running to someone to do god knows what

            I agree, they could have done something else, they could have shot her, they could have tazered her, they could have taken her out with a baton.

            As soon as I can get my camera going I'm goiing to take and post a couple of pictures that will also give a reason for this.


            Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
            It IS their job to protect the public. This woman was public. They failed.
            Remember that next time a criminal is protected instead of you, they're public, it's the polices duty to protect them.
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            • #51
              The lady is not a criminal. And it was not up to them to decide that she was.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
                The lady is not a criminal. And it was not up to them to decide that she was.
                Um........ WHA?

                I'd like an explanation of that please.
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                • #53
                  Well, I'm being admonished that I would be upset if a criminal were protected instead of me being protected, and that is true. (I know it's true because the way our current legal system is set up, it happens all the time).

                  However, suggesting that this woman is a criminal who everyone needed protection from is a bit over the top. In this case, this woman is a ciitizen in need of help, not a criminal.

                  Since the cops are there to protect people who need help, I'd say they failed.

                  I'm more concerned about cops dismissing evidence that someone is suffering a crisis and failing to help here. It has happened in my own hometown, in one case with nearly fatal results.

                  It scares me that authority figures would make that sort of leap and act that wrongly on it. I'm more worried about that than I am about some "criminal" being protected by cops instead of me being protected. Because I run into a whole lot more cops in my day to day life than I do criminals.

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                  • #54
                    Until she was held under control by the police, she was a criminal. She ran a red light, which is reckless driving. She ran from the police. She was a criminal. That completely warrants stopping her. As Nyoibo mentioned, they could have just shot her, tazed her, maced her, smashed her face in with a baton. What less but effective way could they have done? Asked her nicely? When has that ever worked?
                    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                    • #55
                      Really? So, she's a criminal without benefit of trial, eh?

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                      • #56
                        She broke a law in full view of police, yes she is a proven criminal, until the extenuating circumstances are established and proven*

                        I bolded proven because they weren't proven until she was arrested, from that point on is where the cops did wrong, not before that.
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                        • #57
                          She broke a law, yes. BUT she stopped, and provided police with her ID (according to one article), informed them of her illness and THEN continued to the hospital @ 40mph.

                          I fail to see where she was a threat and HAD to be controlled/chased/tackled. Honestly.

                          1. She stopped
                          2. Gave ID
                          3. Said she was sick

                          WTF else was she to do? Wait for the cops to decide whether or not she deserved a chance at saving her baby?

                          And I dont feel like rereading right now, but im 90% sure the judge had decided that the cops knew she was a medical emergency. They acted like asses.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Nyoibo View Post
                            She broke a law in full view of police, yes she is a proven criminal, until the extenuating circumstances are established and proven*

                            .
                            Not in this country, which is where all this happened. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

                            It doesn't matter what conclusion the cops jumped to.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
                              Not in this country, which is where all this happened. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

                              It doesn't matter what conclusion the cops jumped to.
                              So you are telling me when a cop pulls you over for speeding, you aren't actually guilty? Yea right.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                                So you are telling me when a cop pulls you over for speeding, you aren't actually guilty? Yea right.
                                That was my first thought as well, however you DO have the right to admit guilt (by paying the ticket right away) or to have your case heard by a judge, who doesn't necessarily have to find you guilty (especially if you have no priors).

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